Hello everybody,
Scrolling randomly through the Oera Linda that is available on wiki, I stumbled across the EN097.28 Teachings1 part. It was as if I was reading the Dao De Jing or The Zuanghzi. ChatGPT and I found a couple of striking similarities between both the Daoist texts and Oera Linda, that I can't resist to share here. These Teachings to me say that the Freya's were not mere supersitious 'pagan' believers, but had a true depth to their understanding of God, the Universe or Dao - their Wralda.
Hope you enjoy this as much as me!
Primal Teachings
All God-loving children of Frya, hail! Through them, bliss shall come to Earth. Learn and proclaim to the nations:
‘Wralda’ is the most-ancient or primordial, for he created all things.
Wralda is the ‘all-in-all’, for he is eternal and infinite.
Wralda is present everywhere, yet nowhere can he be seen. Therefore, his being is called ‘spirit’. All that we can see of him are the creations that come and go again through his life, because from Wralda all things proceed and to him they return.
Out of Wralda comes both the beginning and the end. All things merge into him.
Wralda is the only almighty being, because all other power is lent from him and returns to him.
From Wralda, all forces are derived, and all forces return to him again. Therefore, he alone is the creative being, and nothing is created outside of him.
Wralda set eternal principles, or ‘eawa’, into all that was created, and there are no good commandments lest they be founded upon these principles.
Zhuangzi, Chapter 2: The Great Master: "The Tao is the source of all things and the ultimate end of all things. It is the essence of the universe, the origin from which everything arises and into which everything returns."
Tao Te Ching chapter 42: "The Tao is the great source of all things. It is the fundamental principle from which everything emerges and into which everything ultimately returns."
"It is the source of everything and the ultimate end. The Tao is eternal and everlasting, yet it is hidden and elusive. It is the mother of all things and the source of all creation."
Zhuangzi, Chapter 2: "In embracing the Tao, one finds peace and tranquility. One becomes aligned with the ultimate principles of the universe and lives a life of harmony and balance."
And ChatGPT and me could go on.
All the best,
Hille
Oera Linda vs Daoism
Re: Oera Linda vs Daoism
Hi Hille,
I believe this resemblance is no coincidence. Look into Zoroastrianism, the Vedas and the presocratic filosophers, or even with some Abrahamic scolars, like the Islamic Ibn Sina or Spinoza there are similarities found. Before the now known religions and polytheism, and next to 'skraeling' sjamanism, there seem to have been a common 'monotheist' filosophy; a more abstract, holistic, filosophical conception of spirituality, and a cultural role of folkmothers. These women, Vestal maidens, were probably often mythologised into godesses next to the great Mother by pagan Europe and middle east(e.g. Cybile), that also gave the males more and more dominant roles in myth and beliefs, and were eventually completely dominated by the Patriarchy. Culturally develloped gnostic concepts, dogmas, mysticisms, idols, rituals etc. deviated from the early purity, also in Daoism and Vedics. And of course by the birth of the priestclass and tithing(religious tax). (I believe European culture was a bit different than eastern in that it would be more free, intellectual and brotherly, less 'pyramidal'. And therefore more vividly guarding truth and justice. Eventhough we too lost the plot more and more. And on the other hand the east preserved more of its writing and beliefs through cultural dogmatism, which is a great point of Confucius; this was the task of the Mothers of the Fryas. But this is why today we feel 'wisdom' comes from the east). You may also like to read up on the chinese Xi Wangmu Mother of the North, who resembles Frya in a lot of ways. Even North American natives have a great Mother conception. Find out about Marija Gimbutas and Harald Haarmann too. Though the far east has done it's own thing they were influenced I believe by the Afanasievo and Scythians. Their earliest metalwork seems to have Scythian roots/links, perhaps brought by the steppe people from our near east/balkans or maybe Nordics or Celts. The word Veda comes from the (germanic/PIE) word vit(knowledge)which is a pure Fryas word. I think with the Oera Linda we get proof, and a more pure understanding of all of this.
I believe this resemblance is no coincidence. Look into Zoroastrianism, the Vedas and the presocratic filosophers, or even with some Abrahamic scolars, like the Islamic Ibn Sina or Spinoza there are similarities found. Before the now known religions and polytheism, and next to 'skraeling' sjamanism, there seem to have been a common 'monotheist' filosophy; a more abstract, holistic, filosophical conception of spirituality, and a cultural role of folkmothers. These women, Vestal maidens, were probably often mythologised into godesses next to the great Mother by pagan Europe and middle east(e.g. Cybile), that also gave the males more and more dominant roles in myth and beliefs, and were eventually completely dominated by the Patriarchy. Culturally develloped gnostic concepts, dogmas, mysticisms, idols, rituals etc. deviated from the early purity, also in Daoism and Vedics. And of course by the birth of the priestclass and tithing(religious tax). (I believe European culture was a bit different than eastern in that it would be more free, intellectual and brotherly, less 'pyramidal'. And therefore more vividly guarding truth and justice. Eventhough we too lost the plot more and more. And on the other hand the east preserved more of its writing and beliefs through cultural dogmatism, which is a great point of Confucius; this was the task of the Mothers of the Fryas. But this is why today we feel 'wisdom' comes from the east). You may also like to read up on the chinese Xi Wangmu Mother of the North, who resembles Frya in a lot of ways. Even North American natives have a great Mother conception. Find out about Marija Gimbutas and Harald Haarmann too. Though the far east has done it's own thing they were influenced I believe by the Afanasievo and Scythians. Their earliest metalwork seems to have Scythian roots/links, perhaps brought by the steppe people from our near east/balkans or maybe Nordics or Celts. The word Veda comes from the (germanic/PIE) word vit(knowledge)which is a pure Fryas word. I think with the Oera Linda we get proof, and a more pure understanding of all of this.
Re: Oera Linda vs Daoism
Hello Hille, I'm glad you made a post about this, as I knew there was were some similarities between Fryas and Taoist wisdom. They also both talk about how change is constant, something I brought up in my post: viewtopic.php?t=12 Though I don't know if I put any Daoist in that thread.
Brea, bûter en griene tsiis is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk
Re: Oera Linda vs Daoism
Just as the aeva concept became, or is related to, Buddhist evam, a case could be made the Xi Wangmu of Kunlun mountain is related to the Ukko Väinämöinen ('old man deep river'), or his female counterpart Ve(d)en emo ('mistress of water'), of Kuunteluvuori mountain. Germanic peoples knew the name as Wægmund, of which Beowulf's own clan Wægmundings. Egyptian Wenamun is of the same source, too, and in Oera Linda book they're called by the title of chief Magi.
Edit: OL 146 female name WÉ.MOD (Weamod) is also rather similar name.
Good finding Hille on the theological similarities! I'm myself a big believer in extending the European research frontiers to include for more exotic and distant comparison materials. Frya, for example, turns up in ancient Zoroastrian (Iranian Persian) list of helping angels of local and abroad lands ("We worship the Fravashi of the holy Frya").
Edit: OL 146 female name WÉ.MOD (Weamod) is also rather similar name.
Good finding Hille on the theological similarities! I'm myself a big believer in extending the European research frontiers to include for more exotic and distant comparison materials. Frya, for example, turns up in ancient Zoroastrian (Iranian Persian) list of helping angels of local and abroad lands ("We worship the Fravashi of the holy Frya").
Re: Oera Linda vs Daoism
The Fryas, or groups that intermingled with them at an earlier time, such as the Greeks, might have expanded as far east as China, Korea, and Japan. In the latter, the genetic traces of this presence survived in the Ainu people on the northern island of Hokkaido. The Buddhist swastika is also present in these countries. Robert Sepehr has produced a series of videos addressing this subject (1st link, 2nd link). One of the mummies from the Tarim Basin exhibits a B marking on her forehead, reminiscent of the markings described in the Oera Linda Book as worn by banished ("brit") Fryas.
The presence of this mark among the eastern settlers might be indicative of a demographic shift involving a migration of banished Fryas who traversed eastward from Europe, adventurous Geartmen who embarked northward from their original settlement near the Indus river, and even some of Alexander the Great's soldiers who chose to settle rather than return to Greece. A notable example of this demographic shift can be seen in the Kalash people of Northern Pakistan, who traditionally trace their origins to Alexander. Sepehr's videos also suggest that Daoism originated from a foreign people with blond hair who helped establish civilization in China. Considering these facts, it is plausible that the Fryas represent the missing link, and the similarity between Daoism and the OLB teachings is not merely coincidental.
The presence of this mark among the eastern settlers might be indicative of a demographic shift involving a migration of banished Fryas who traversed eastward from Europe, adventurous Geartmen who embarked northward from their original settlement near the Indus river, and even some of Alexander the Great's soldiers who chose to settle rather than return to Greece. A notable example of this demographic shift can be seen in the Kalash people of Northern Pakistan, who traditionally trace their origins to Alexander. Sepehr's videos also suggest that Daoism originated from a foreign people with blond hair who helped establish civilization in China. Considering these facts, it is plausible that the Fryas represent the missing link, and the similarity between Daoism and the OLB teachings is not merely coincidental.
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