Rudra = Wralda?

both within OL texts as in relation to other traditions
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Er Aldaric
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Rudra = Wralda?

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Many new to the OL are put off, or suspicious around the idea of Wralda because the name is so unfamiliar (On top of the already shocking notion that ancient Europeans practice some form of monotheism). Despite this initial unfamiliarity with Wralda, there is cognates, the most obvious of which being "Verallder", a name for Freyr. To my knowlege this has never been brought up before, but Rudra comes to mind as another potential 'cognate' of Wralda. Rudra being the archiac name for the hindu god we know as Shiva.

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I will add some notes I posted earlier, elsewhere:
Unexplained Myesteries forum 10 Nov. 2010:
Jensma (p. 92-93 of De Gemaskerde God):
"WR.ALDA is the most explicit character in the whole OLB. His name, that is used 96 times, is a great find in itself. 'Wralda' is Oldfrisian for 'world', but the point in the word makes it possible to read the name as 'Oer.alda' - the 'over-old one', and possibly also as 'Oeral.da' - 'omnipresent'." (improvised translation by me)

What Jensma did not know - or maybe he deliberately ignored it - is that varieties of the word Wralda exist in old Nordic archaeology, mythology, poetry in a similar context:

1. Frey or Freyr, the twin-brother of Freya is refered to as Veraldar God.
2. In old-Laplandic the term Weralden Olma refers to God.
3. The creation myth of the poetic Edda starts with Ar Var Alda; first was old-one.
4. I'd also suggest an etymological relationship between 'Alda' and 'Allah'.
Later I also realized that Uranus/Ouranos, "the personification of the sky and one of the Greek primordial deities" (wiki), could be derived from Wralda (can be pronounced as Uralda). Note that two of Ouranos' children — Rhea and Kronos — can be related (namewise) to Frya and Kroder.

In January 2014, I posted about Orotalt, Ruda/Ruldaiu: Pre-Islamic Arabian, Assyrian names for God, sounding similar to Wralda.

So yes, I would add Rudra to the list.
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I had no idea about Weralden Olma and Ar Var Alda, that is good to know, thanks Jan.
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The link Wralda and Uranus has besides the pronunciation likenesses is the zodiac.

“In the Roman era he was often depicted as Aion, god of eternal time, in the form of a man holding the zodiac-wheel, standing above the reclining Gaia (Earth).”

https://www.theoi.com/Protogenos/Ouranos.html

The man in the sky is Orion and his there consorts are Orion’s belt.

So Orion may be the physical representative of Wralda and Uranus. Shiva is also known as the orion constellation.

https://ramanisblog.in/2018/06/09/natar ... ssion=true

This shows a major connection between Wralda, Uranus, and Shiva. All three are most likely the same being but different dialects or pronunciations

https://www.vedanet.com/the-shiva-kali- ... t-in-2020/
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As a dutch speaker I hear multiple things depending on where the stress is;
1)over alles daar; over everything that is there,
2) boven alles daar; above everything, present
3)overal daar; present everywhere,
4) oeroud; over-old, ancient

On a side note this link between oer and over makes sense to me, since the Nietschean overman, in old Frisian would be oermensk, or ‘ancient man’/ root man, who is a much better focus and inspiration than ‘future man’ to me at this moment.
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