Who was Frya?

Dating of the various texts in relation to other sources, archaeology, geology, genetics etc.
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Er Aldaric
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Who was Frya?

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Who was our Frya? Her being symbolic personification of our race makes sense at first thought. Our ancestors would have been venerating the group collective of the folk with every reverence made to Frya. This seems as the most rational take on the 'myths' described in the Oera Linda, however she is spoken of as if she were a literal living and breathing person (perhaps superhuman) that would have been alive within recent memory, until at least the sinking of Fleeland, Keep in mind our Fryan ancestors were not superstitious people.

Another potentiality is that Frya is Venus, and of course, her seven handmaidens would be the Pleiades constellation, but that leaves some questions on what celestial body (If any) the other two mothers could be identified with and how exactly Venus would've had a role in in the creation of Fryas. With her being either a real human or a planet, the connection to Venus is there. I believe those who contributed to the electric universe theory post would be able to expound more on this idea.

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Going back to Frya being human, perhaps she could have been our first ancestor in a less literal sense. This fragment may relate:
Now it was time for Festa to light the new Lamp, and when that had been done in the presence of the folk, Frya called from her watch-star so that all could hear it:[2] “Festa, take up your stylus and write the things that earlier I had no chance to say.” Festa did as she was bidden, and that is how we, Frya’s children, received our primal history. -2b Our Primal History

Does this imply that prior to this spiritual revelation to Festa, the folk were in a state of ignorance as to Frya's nature? The Sandbach translation makes it seem as though we became 'Fryas Children' in that moment of revelation:
Festa did as she was bid, and thus we became Frya's children, and our earliest history began.
Although Sandbach's translation is obviously not as accurate as Ott's later translation. Frya could have been our mother in a haplogroup sort of sense where she was a tribal leader who gave us written language and laws and had many children, enough to the point where everyone belonging to the 'white race' could track their maternal lineage back to her. Following this train of thought, Europes history could be divided into Fryan and Pre-Fryan times, with cultures like those responsible for creating works like the various Venus statues littered across the continent occupying a time in history from before a complete paradigm shift brought on behalf of 'Frya's tribe'. Similarly in the bible Adam is described as the first man, yet somehow his descendant Cain is able to wander and find a wife outside of Adam's descendants - it becomes clear Adam wasn't the 'first man' but rather the first ancestor to the Semites, their mythical ethnogenesis.

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What if the Venus statues were commemorative portraits of (perhaps even elderly) matriarchal leaders? Various tribes in pre-Fryan Europe would have immortalized their leaders in this cultural style.

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A venus-like statue of Cybele, the Phrygian name for Frya.

I'm interested as to what everyone on this forum's thoughts are on this subject.
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You have to look at the time frame in which those statues were carved. The bottom pic of the women sitting down with the two cats is very old. It predates cybele and the phrygians. Most likely The phrygians were people who adopted that depiction and it may be a depiction of Finda.
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Most likely The phrygians were people who adopted that depiction and it may be a depiction of Finda.
Yes after looking at the date of that 'Cybele' sculpture (assuming the dating is correct), I think it's dubious researchers labeled that artifact as Cybele, but even if that statue was created by Findas folk it has obvious stylistic and cultural influence from Europe. I still think that the Venus figures littered across Europe being 'proto-mothers' is likely.
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Er Aldaric wrote: 15 Sep 2023, 04:37
Most likely The phrygians were people who adopted that depiction and it may be a depiction of Finda.
Yes after looking at the date of that 'Cybele' sculpture (assuming the dating is correct), I think it's dubious researchers labeled that artifact as Cybele, but even if that statue was created by Findas folk it has obvious stylistic and cultural influence from Europe. I still think that the Venus figures littered across Europe being 'proto-mothers' is likely.
You may be right
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I also think there could be a connection between the protomothers and the “venus sculptures”. But this imagery is found all over the globe and to me it seems that at first humans in general lived in a common state of cooperation without rulers where volksmothers played a prominent role. The sculptures might have been the equivalent of the (barbie)dolls of today. I mean as an example of traits that where honored, which were the opposite of those of this day and age, namely wisdom (the figures are mostly those of old(er) women. It might be the wisdom (which comes with age as seen by the volksmothers) rather then the fertility what it’s all about).
It looks like the proces of freedom to slavery and the proces from volksmothers to patriarchy therein took place all over the world together with their different and also very similar stories all referring to this proces.
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