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Re: Me & My Interests

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phi wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 05:19
  • #1 Do we know that the Fryans considered Sweden to be part of Twiskland? If not, the flares' locations I see on their map don't seem to match up with the described cataclysm in Twiskland.
  • #2 I couldn't find any information about the mega-tsunami in the Baltic Sea hitting Netherlands/Denmark/Deutschland. Is there any geological evidence of this?
  • #3 The OLB describes the flooding, fires, and earthquakes as occurring concurrently or at least within three years of each other. Are you suggesting these two things happened at the same time?
  • #4 Do you suppose that calendar skew is what accounts for the difference of time between the OLB's date for the cataclysm (2190 BCE) and the geological dates of the mega-tsunami and MVT (1171 BCE and 1000 BCE)?
  • #5 Are the MVT and mega-tsunami events the most widely accepted explanations for the geological phenomena described as the "Bad Times"?
  • #6 About the Lower Saxony Petroleum Basin, is there any geological evidence that the crude oil has come to the surface and burned in the past?
#1. They're mentioned separately e.g. quote below. However there are parts that explicitly mention the simultaneous upheaval in both regions, or can be read as such:
This is the foreword: Mountains, bow your heads; weep, ye clouds and streams. Yes, Skeanland blushes: a slave folk treads upon your gown, O Frya! One hundred and one years after Aldland sank, folk came out of the East. They had been driven out by another folk. Beyond our Twiskland, they had fallen into dispute; they divided into two large groups and each went its own way. Of the one part, no account has come to us. But the other part invaded the rear of our Skeanland. (050-051, about the 2200-2100 BC era)

This writing about Northland, or Skeanland, was given to me: While our lands sank, I was in Skeanland. This is
what happened there. There were great craters that bulged from Earth’s surface like blisters. Then they burst asunder, and from the cracks flowed a substance like glowing iron. The tops of some mountains collapsed and tumbled down, destroying woods and towns. I witnessed a mountain being torn from another and falling straight down. When I later went there, I saw that a lake had come into being. (130-131, about a later similar catastrophe)
#2. Not to my knowledge. Closest I know of are the Doggerland, Storegga Slide and the fact that Dutch coastline seems to have changed when compared to antiquity and medieval era.

#3. No.

#4. No, they're separate situations.

#5. I 'm unaware of any consensus on the root cause of the 2200 BC era geological situation (aka 4.2 kiloyear event).

#6. No. However it could help explain in part how vast masses of German areas could have burned in old antiquity.

I'm unaware of any authority looking for evidence of ancient burnings and lavas in German antiquity. Some German volcanoes are thought to have been active at the end of the last ice age (touching on the issue of how one dates the lava solidified into stone). There are some general level studies on the 2200 BC situation (under the name 4.2 kiloyear event) and the authors mentioned above did look at later Scandinavian situation. Any sort of geological evidence for past dire situations in German and Scandinavian antiquity are important clues for OL research.

Edit: also thanks to Coco for good book tips.
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Nordic wrote: 11 Nov 2023, 09:37
phi wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 05:19
  • #1 Do we know that the Fryans considered Sweden to be part of Twiskland? (...)
#1. They're mentioned separately e.g. quote below. (...)
(...) Skeanland blushes (...) the other part invaded the rear of our Skeanland. (...) Northland, or Skeanland (...) I was in Skeanland.
One would have to argue why/how 'Skeanland' relates to Sweden, possibly through 'Skåne' which is only a small (southernmost) part of it now. There may have been reasoning about this question earlier, somewhere.
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ott wrote: 11 Nov 2023, 13:31 One would have to argue why/how 'Skeanland' relates to Sweden
VPSALÁNDUM [003] and GODA.HIS BURCH [052] / GODA.BURCH [053] and [093] seem to relate to Uppsala (archaically spelled with one 'p') and Göteborg. (Chapters 1b, 8a and 13b)
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ott wrote: 13 Nov 2023, 08:20
ott wrote: 11 Nov 2023, 13:31 One would have to argue why/how 'Skeanland' relates to Sweden
VPSALÁNDUM [003] and GODA.HIS BURCH [052] / GODA.BURCH [053] and [093] seem to relate to Uppsala (archaically spelled with one 'p') and Göteborg. (Chapters 1b, 8a and 13b)
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