Bjorn wrote
I found this lamp on a Frisian clock, maybe it's something
Oh I like that! Though urns and such have been used in decorations in neoclassical styles, derived from greek/roman art and the vestal virgins, like this might be, it could've been remembered authentically. The slaughter of Fryas by the Hollanders where there was a lamp destroyed overlaps the Versailles etc artperiod. It reminds me also of lamps used in India, that are placed on top of the kalashpot, which here is the big round leaf belly part. And there's a rooster and owl, damn I will certainly make a digital version of that.
If we lose the big Yul on top and put that lamp below, the overall shape would be more or less a rhombus. I expect it to be too busy for Ott's taste. But I slightly like it over the torch, because that is so much used, and maybe Cybele and Adela having a stick is a pattern. Personally I also like the symbolism of the resting lions, instead of standing. But, I will do as Jan decides, I think I will make separate symbols, lamps, Yul's, requests, that can be used as designs for other occasions.
Ott wrote
The larger is like a steersman's wheel...,
Fortuna was also depicted with a steerpaddle, and cornocopia(like probably the breads/eggs of Nyhellenia, koren of Demeter-the mater).
It also reminds me of a spinning wheel, and the link to the spindel; otherworldly/female connection from the Norse, and the nornen, both relating back to Kroder/time and ''seeing'' knowledge.
