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Frigg and Freyja -Jackson Crawford

Posted: 19 Sep 2024, 07:25
by Kraftr
Frigg and Freyja (Live in Colorado)

[*]He makes it plausible that they are the same, but keeps academic distance in saying it is so. Which is refreshing from him, because I know him as staying in very safe territory.
[*]In relation to my recent findings/theories around names it is interesting how he affirms Freyja/Frya also is a title, vrouwe(old dutch). And he offers theories in how to understand names/titles and storycaracters.
[*]The little start about 'per' made me think about Persian/Finnic Per, Slavic Perun etc. It would mean 'first', as Frya would be. The original 'First Lady'.
[*]The Norse myths that he follows up with are interesting too; it made me feel like Loki could(sometimes) represent possible intrigue going on, as explained by Oera Linda Manuscript. Maybe a person, tribe or trend. Through Loki they would sort of respect the unpredictable rule, of violence and lies etc. I believe. In the long winters these stories were build weaving the things that happened in those times into stories around Frya, in which 'sidecaracters' came to dominate the traditions that were passed on. Losing sight or not mentioning the core-importance of Frya relatively. The storytelling liberty makes the Norse mythology relatively hard to understand, but I feel it is not crazy to see how Frya worship could have predated it.

Re: Frigg and Freyja -Jackson Crawford

Posted: 21 Sep 2024, 09:07
by Coco
The trove of Norse mythology may indeed contain a plethora of entertaining anecdotes; nevertheless, I find it to be a pernicious mental trap in modern times in which individuals find themselves searching for an identity to embrace. (This is not intended as a personal critique of you, Kraftr, but merely as a general observation.) The mythology is rife with numerous superfluous elements, such as idol worship, ritual sacrifice, and cryptic runes, which must be sifted through in order to locate the more useful elements. Even Old Norse is challenging to comprehend when compared to Fryas, a testament to the eastern influence that corrupted the original pure Fryas spoken in Scandinavia.

A similar phenomenon can be observed in the Bible, which, like Norse mythology, has been used as a means of finding an identity for many individuals. While it does offer valuable teachings, it is replete with elements that are of no practical value. Similarly, the original languages of the Bible are often challenging to decipher. The OLB's unadulterated wisdom and simplicity render it a generally more worthwhile use of one's time.

Re: Frigg and Freyja -Jackson Crawford

Posted: 21 Sep 2024, 13:14
by ott
Very well said, Coco.

Re: Frigg and Freyja -Jackson Crawford

Posted: 21 Sep 2024, 13:42
by Kraftr
I agree, it always put me off because these stories don't connect much, and it always has this grimness, it's why I like Slavic paganism more(and I feel friendly toward the pagans and larpers, and their searching). But maybe seeing them from the perspective I describe, they can still disclose true events, or what was changed and by that route set us on the track to know more about Frya. I think the bible also shows clues to what it eradicated. For instance, was Jezabel evil or was this just the animosity of the biblewriters speaking, and was she a sort of Vestal mother? And maybe there's clues to what really went on there.
Thinking about the Beten, Greek godesses and fairy tales like Frau Holle(Goldmarie/Pechmarie)have helped me see patterns that I believe may be 'old tracks' of Fryas cart.