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Like I already mentioned in a previous post, it seems to me there is some confusion about where the Geartmen used to live. The OLB seems clear, Panj-ab must mean the Indus delta. But what if that river moved its course in between?

On maps pre 1600, the Indus river flows more south, and reaches the sea in the current state of Gujarat. While taking all sources with a grain of salt, could all those old maps have the same mistake, or was the course of the river really different?

Surprisingly, Wikipedia has some interesting information on the page about Minnagara (a Frisian sounding name, thought to be the possible location of the Geartmen). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnagara

The map on above link shows Minnagara almost halfway the current Indus course, far from the sea.

But, I quote: 'Ptolemy also mentioned Minnagara, which, according to his explanations, would be along the Narmada River, upstream of Barigaza, and below Ujjain:' The Narmada River reaches the sea exactly where the old Indus river delta must have been according to all those old maps.

A little off topic: Where does the name Indus come from? Is it coïncidence that it sounds similar to Linde/Linda? Did the Geartmen gave the river it's name?

Great questions indeed!
Old maps seem to be based on written sources mostly and on other old maps, thus often not very accurate.
For now, I must leave it to others to pick this up.
As for ‘Indus’, I thought of a link to ‘Hindus’, but have not given that idea much attention yet.

The Sindhu's are indeed the Hindus(Persian word) and they lived near the Sindhu river, that is the Indus river. This is where supposedly Sanathana Dharma originated, which is Hinduism.

Mind you that India used to be called Bharat and its influence is said to have stretched a much wider distance.

Hi Wralda,

I am fine calling India Bharat, or Hindustan or whatever you prefer. But it's not clear to me if you agree or disagree with what I wrote.. Can you elaborate?

Welcome on the forum, by the way.

Hi Friedrich,

Thanks for your welcome.

Let me elaborate a little:
The course of the Indus river among many others has indeed been altered over the many millennia, it has dried up and altered courses due to forces of nature and it used to flow through Northwestern India. I'm not entirely sure about the timeline. What we're pretty certain of is that some 10.000 years ago a change occurred due to tectonic shifts leading to the upliftment of the Himalaya, this inevitably changed the course of the Indus river as well..

Around 3300 BCE, there was an ancient civilization that relied on the Indus river for agriculture & trade. The Indus river provided nourishment to the soil leading to better crop yield.

Around 2000-1500BCE, there were Aryans who migrated and settled along the Indus as well.
This was also when the Vedas first appeared although some say it had stayed an oral tradition and was only written down much later. The Vedic period would be from 1500BCE-500BCE.
Many important books, libraries & buildings were unfortunately destroyed by muslim invasions around 700CE. The Vedas have a rich history with many stories, it shows close correlation to Zoroastrianism and some of it may even align with the Oera Linda.

So I guess timeline becomes important here.

On raremaps.com I found this map from 1584, clearly showing Minnagara south of Scythia, and south of the Indus, in what is now India. This confirms my hypothesis that the Geartmen lived more south than usually assumed.