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I have just seen this part on You Tube. I have always understood that the word ' viking' meant ' seaking'. But here is stated that the vikings are expelled jews and the word viking would mean 'refugee'.
Could it be that the Finen are the Viking? And alas that they are from jewish origin?

Godgevlamste is an eccentric alternative form of earth theorist. His video is here and does not disappoint when it comes to being a fresh take.

In Norse usage Viking was also a given name, e.g. saga Þorsteins saga Víkingssonar where Víking is a given name and not only a profession descriptor.

The Norse peoples did not derive the name Norway from "Eden", as suggested by the video, but from prince Nórr of Finland, also called Sæmingr 'Finn' (Suomi) or 'Sami'. The Norse peoples did know the Eden mythos under the names Ódainsakr (Latin form Undensakre) and Paradisum e.g. Hervarar saga and Eireks saga víðförla; more or less the same as the Greek Eden garden tale of Hesperides (Hesperides = word Paradise) and snake Ladon.

This author found out that Oera Linda book narrative and set of related Norse sagas were embedded (with errors) into the old Sumerian clay tablets back in c. 1800 BC (details). Since the names in that 1800 BC list are downstream of the ones found from Icelandic Norse sagas and Finnish SKVR poetry, any theories mainstream or alternative that posits a relatively modern age for Nordic languages gets thrown out of window. Instead, it means that those languages and story characters must pre-date 1800 BC, or be from 4800+ years ago. Which the OL narrative suggests by dating those war tales to c. 2200-2000 BC.

In addition, Godgelvamste's theory does not explain in context where the blonde Nordic look comes from, believed to be from c. 10,000 year ago. The leading researcher Peter Frost believes it took tens of thousands of years of purposeful mating the get the otherwise abnormal blonde and red-haired mutation to get permanently stabilised the way it currently is in Nordic white races.

The idea that Viking are Jews or Phoenicians, or that OL Findas or Finns are Jews, keep resurfacing year after year. The OL is very clear on when it speaks about Phoenicians and when of Nordic peoples. The OL Finns are specifically the Fornjót line of Finns, as evidenced by the same war tale narratives (conquest of Scandinavia) and same names (THÍR as Iku-TIera, or king Þorri of Finland from Fornjót lineage). As detailed in OL narrative, all people are able to do evil if they choose to do so.

I am sorry to disagree Nordic, but I see in the OLB an confirmation of Fryans/Frisians/Vikings being mixed with Phoenicians. The Fryans who left Greece for India took some people from Tyre with them. As far I understand, those Tyrians were a mix already of Fryans and Phoenicians. I guess we can assume in all those centuries in the Indus Valley some more mixing took place. So when the Geartmen came back with Alexander, they brought a significant amount of DNA from the Levant with them. In the centuries following, I guess we can assume those Geartmen got absorbed in the Fryan society, making the Fryans/Frisians as a whole partially Phoenician.

Of course I do agree with you, that the Fryans and Phoenicians had a very different culture, freedom vs slavery. But if we like it or not, the Fryans got infiltrated, and because of it, culture slowly got corrupted by the moneylenders.

Ashkenazi means German in Hebrew so Jiddisch speaking Jews were named after the place they lived(migrated to)
In the bible Ashkenaz(here Gemans, sometimes 'white people'-so kind of implying Germans are the root people?) is the son of Japhet, son of Noah. The Germans(consisting of different tribes, some from steppe/baltic/slavic) are categorised as a goy (nonjew) people from before Jews(from Shem son of Noah) came in, according to official history. So they came later then the Phoenician era. Anybody coming from Phoenicians is not the same as Jews; like Libanese, Tunesians, Ethiopeans even Palestinians can have Phoenician heritage.
Jiddisch came from German and like Bargoens(streetlanguage of Dutch underworld) also has Hebrew influence. It is a butchered german, a bit like a dialect, or ebonics, but has Hebrew and other(like Hungarian) influences. Ashkenazim didn't even speak Hebrew, except for Rabbis, they only used the alphabet. They also develloped their own version of Spanish in Spain, and probably in other places where Jewish culture thrived. While the people who are called Jews today are very mixed with all other ethnicities, they are from the group that were identifying as such always. The speculation of course is that they are the decendendants of what had/took power over the Phoenicians, but there are scientifically plenty caviats either way to keep the distinction.
When the Habsburg queen of Spain demanded conversion or expulsion, many Sephardic moved to the Netherlands, so Levantian DNA may have entered at that time(too). Sephardi is hebrew for Spanish. Interesting however that Sephardic came up around the coast of Europe. Spain and Portugal used to be the big seapowers with the Dutch.

I did find this book though (haven't read it yet, but saw a lot of clues to persue already);
The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots & Anglo-Saxons (1924 - 1st. edition)

Friedrich wrote: ↑17 Apr 2025, 14:34The Fryans who left Greece for India took some people from Tyre with them. As far I understand, those Tyrians were a mix already of Fryans and Phoenicians.

Yes and OL MS 073 specifically notes the Tyrians of those times "yet had Frya’s blood in their veins", suggesting they were a mixed Frisian-Finnish-local peoples, of which the local element would have been overwhelmingly the Phoenician (when Tyre is read as Lebanese Tyre and not as Greek Chalkidikian Toroni).

Friedrich wrote: ↑17 Apr 2025, 14:34In the centuries following, I guess we can assume those Geartmen got absorbed in the Fryan society, making the Fryans/Frisians as a whole partially Phoenician.

This follows logically from the above, but methinks there would be little or no Phoenician cultural elements imported into Frisia and little racial elements (blended soon with 100 % pure Germanic peoples). Maybe Askar's black hair came that way, or via the African blacks episode?

If we assume the OL presentation of Celts and Druids as semi-Phoenicians (the latter originally fully Phoenician) and we assume the British and Norman traditions of Celtic king Arthur (with druid Merlin) conquering Norway, Denmark, Iceland and politically (but not militarily) subjugating also Finland, one could allow for some Celtic Christian, at that point of time distantly Phoenician derived heritage, influx into Nordic lands in an era immediately preceding the Viking era. Though that would not be what likes of Godvevlamste usually mean when equating Jews, Phoenicians and Vikings (of all peoples).