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Echoes of OL

Posted: 07 Nov 2025, 21:02
by Kraftr
a collection of things that are no proof of anything, later in time. just interesting getting to know more about Frisia/the Netherlands

  • lessons from Rungholt and Doggerland
    Pretty AI rendition of officially known Frisian history with both english and german narration. (Unfortunatly with the current 'sustainability agenda' sauce)
  • The vase(lamp?)shaped Dutch Clocks from the enlightenment period were ornamented with the three virtues Faith, Love(caritas)and Hope, and often Atlas carrying the world, Minerva or Mercury. Also lions were used often and always the adage 'Nu elck syn sin' (to each their own) stating the high regard for freedom.
    for more info:
    http://www.antique-horology.org/_Editor ... lckSynSin/
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Re: Echoes of OL

Posted: 07 Nov 2025, 22:15
by Kraftr
maybe I'm reaching with the next one;
  • The Noble Who Collected Children's Head
    the mystery of Gilles de Rey, the power behind the (kelta-like?) maiden of Orleans, accused of childsacrifice. Did he use the folkloric love of maiden warriorqueens? Does it point to a hidden aristocracy aware of this history?
  • Depopulation & the Mongol-Venetian Order
    this took my interest because the Finda were in my estimate a common effort of money/trade and war. From the east and south east. Venice could be cognate with Finda, Mongols and Turks their old time hidden allies.
    Earlier Viking trade before that went through the Austrveg(easternroute)showing importance of the regions and trade/tax motifs
  • Was This Woman the Real Rapunzel?
    This fairytale may have been a commoners means to preserve themes of the old religion, or a Christian story made to appeal to Europeans. Some themes I note; trinity, koren, maiden, tower, water(spring), Barbara=barbarian, the Lover and twin children(referance to Frya and Fryer)-also similar to Jesos buda's parents(holy woman and prince/holy man and princess)The hag could be Frau Holle, the thesmophorian themes of obduction and fate of renewal, parsely could this plant be German Rapunzel(maybe just a metaphor for (the tree of) life, rejection of Alliance with Persian royalty, the connection of Germanic and Greek folklore, making Christianity the moral superior to her Pagan upbringing.
    I can just imagine how grandmothers would apprecaite the references, and enjoy some plottwists, we can easily see why these kind of stories were so strongly carried and remembered, why they had such deep themes for 'peasant'tales.-As remnants of a much elaborated and thought out cultural past.