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ott wrote: ↑19 Dec 2023, 06:04 Coco, can you add the fragment(s) where this would be suggested?

It would be an anomalous proposition for the Fryas to calculate time in relation to the destruction of the land of a foreign populace.

In 7b, the sinking of Aldland is described. It is peculiar that such a significant amount of wistful prose was dedicated to the sinking of land belonging to a foreign people. Aldland and "the lands of Finda" are mentioned separately. The R1a haplogroup, which comprises a significant number of Findas, appears to have originated from the Altai Mountains. This region, however, is not an island that can sink.

In 8c, Inka, having grown weary of the Findas, embarked on a maritime expedition in the Atlantic Ocean, seeking the lost land of Aldland, which was believed to be situated near the former island of Frisland. It is implausible that he would have undertaken such a quest if he had even the slightest suspicion that the Findas might have inhabited the area.

In 3c, Aldland is depicted as the homeland of the Findas, situated beneath the sea and considered to be distant and inaccessible. The notion of a submerged homeland appears to be an assumption, given the Findas' presumed origin in the Asian steppes. The Fryas, having witnessed the submersion of numerous lands and the subsequent exodus from their own Aldland, might have deduced that the waves of Findas invading Fryasland were also driven by such a phenomenon.

Coco wrote: ↑19 Dec 2023, 14:21It would be an anomalous proposition for the Fryas to calculate time in relation to the destruction of the land of a foreign populace.

The 'bad times' were an Earth-wide event, with the sinking of Aldland as its (apparant) most significant geological change. As this sinking resulted in invasions of Finda people, it will have been relevant enough to start counting years using that as reference. We don't know if the counting system was (originally) only used by the Fryas.

In 7b, the sinking of Aldland is described. It is peculiar that such a significant amount of wistful prose was dedicated to the sinking of land belonging to a foreign people. Aldland and "the lands of Finda" are mentioned separately.

The chapter title may have to be changed as it is about how the 'bad times' came, from which Aldlands sinking was one event and not described with that much detail. Even when they had not lived there themselves, thre Fryas must have been fascinated by the total disappearance of an (apparent) large landmass. [049/32] THA LANDA FINDAS may well refer to [049/25] ALDLAND. THRVCH THA STJÛRAR ÁTLAND HÉTEN, which is how I read it.

In 8c, Inka, having grown weary of the Findas, embarked on a maritime expedition in the Atlantic Ocean, seeking the lost land of Aldland, which was believed to be situated near the former island of Frisland. It is implausible that he would have undertaken such a quest if he had even the slightest suspicion that the Findas might have inhabited the area.

He will not have been a coward. If he would have found (too many) Finda's there, they might have left again with valuable information. But if some land had risen back again, now unpopulated, it might have treasure and good land to settle on.

In 3c, Aldland is depicted as the homeland of the Findas, (...)

It says: Finda’s folk lived mostly together in their mother’s native land — called ‘Aldland’. So groups may have lived elsewhere.

In Oera Linda, there is no direct mention of the Fryas having come from Aldland themselves (but it is possible to have theories why they would have). Rather, (part of) the land that sank when Frya went to her 'watch-star' was named Fleeland (FLÍLÁND).

The hypothesis that the Fryas were the only people capable of surviving on Wralda's Sea is supported by the evidence. The Findas, specifically the Magyars, primarily relied on horseback transportation. The Oera Linda book does not explicitly state that the Fryas inhabited or resided in Aldland. However, depending on the interpretation, the implication is that they did. The text written in chapter 07a was composed by the time Aldland was a distant memory; consequently, there is a paucity of details and names mentioned.

It is plausible that Fleeland was located in Europe, potentially related to Vlieland, as previously suggested by you on the wiki. The name itself could imply that it was where Frya and her contingent sought refuge after the submersion of Aldland, subsequent to a second natural disaster that led to the sinking of a portion of Fleeland. The Dutch coast historically has experienced a recurring phenomenon of land subsidence.