Re: Finda and woman's responsibility for goodness, and why chinese culture is the way that it is
Posted: 02 Feb 2025, 03:43
It is apparent there are many personal perspectives in this topic, so I offer an example of love gone awry.
Take Mongfionn, the mother of Brión, Fiachre, Aillil, and Fergus, as a loving figure. She loves her children dearly, herself being a blonde of fair complexion. One of her epithets happens to be fair-haired Mongfionn, to wit. She is a princess of Munster, and a wife, then queen, to the King of Connaught, then High King of Ireland, Eochiad.
Her husband chose to bring a foreigner, either Brythonic Welsh or Germanic Saxon, as a lover back from a raid, and lo and behold, the woman becomes pregnant.
Surely Eochiad was smitten with a fair haired women himself, right? Nay, the blonde haired king fell for the woman named Cairenn, herself having the epithet, chasdub. This means black, curly hair. So, where does Mongfionn’s resentment arise?
Cairenn gave birth to a son, Niall, who she left upon a hill before he was saved by the Ollamh Érenn, Torna. This counters the love of Mongfionn, since Cairenn literally left her babe to die while carrying water as a slave, the only one allowed to do so for the entire royal fort at Tara, mind you, and continues to carry the water until Niall returns at the age of nine to release her from servitude.
Eochiad acknowledges Niall because he had blonde hair. “Surely, that’s my son!” He may have said, to the contrary fuming presence of Mongfionn. She, herself, was said to name the new son as “venomous Niall.”
All of Mongfionn’s children had blonde hair, herself, Eochiad, and Niall, however their love wasn’t for the hair, it was for the offspring.
Mongfionn later tries, multiple times, to end Niall, and even is suspected to have poisoned her husband for her eldest, Brión, to get the throne.
Her own brother, Chrimthann, takes the kingship, and she even still is presumed to take his life also while taking her own through drinking poison.
So, in the history we find that phenotypes are not necessarily exalted, yet acknowledged as epithets by well educated, warrior class ruling people. Such as in Irish, Fionn meaning fair, Donn meaning brown, and Ruadh meaning red.
Connection to kin is valued most, especially in derbfine mating dynamics, when clans interbred within 1:4 or 1:7 degrees, as is needed. Take double helix structure of DNA for example, and we can clearly see it weaving upon itself.
Another point of reference is how Mongfionn’s love clearly was misguided, since she sought to first remove a step-son, then husband, then her own blood-brother for her first born son to gain power.
The love of a mother surely is unique, yet not pure solely to the fair skinned peoples of our realm, amidst apparent spiritual significance available for education among all cultures.
So to say, as “Natives” of the Americas would put it, there are four winds of peoples.
I summarize it as there are two spectrums with two blendings, and a fifth tawny race, however this begins to differ from the OP, and I perceive much of the content in this topic does so anyways, since very little reference to Chinese culture has been curated.
I leave this post with acknowledgement how expression is important, and this is how more of us are made.
Take Mongfionn, the mother of Brión, Fiachre, Aillil, and Fergus, as a loving figure. She loves her children dearly, herself being a blonde of fair complexion. One of her epithets happens to be fair-haired Mongfionn, to wit. She is a princess of Munster, and a wife, then queen, to the King of Connaught, then High King of Ireland, Eochiad.
Her husband chose to bring a foreigner, either Brythonic Welsh or Germanic Saxon, as a lover back from a raid, and lo and behold, the woman becomes pregnant.
Surely Eochiad was smitten with a fair haired women himself, right? Nay, the blonde haired king fell for the woman named Cairenn, herself having the epithet, chasdub. This means black, curly hair. So, where does Mongfionn’s resentment arise?
Cairenn gave birth to a son, Niall, who she left upon a hill before he was saved by the Ollamh Érenn, Torna. This counters the love of Mongfionn, since Cairenn literally left her babe to die while carrying water as a slave, the only one allowed to do so for the entire royal fort at Tara, mind you, and continues to carry the water until Niall returns at the age of nine to release her from servitude.
Eochiad acknowledges Niall because he had blonde hair. “Surely, that’s my son!” He may have said, to the contrary fuming presence of Mongfionn. She, herself, was said to name the new son as “venomous Niall.”
All of Mongfionn’s children had blonde hair, herself, Eochiad, and Niall, however their love wasn’t for the hair, it was for the offspring.
Mongfionn later tries, multiple times, to end Niall, and even is suspected to have poisoned her husband for her eldest, Brión, to get the throne.
Her own brother, Chrimthann, takes the kingship, and she even still is presumed to take his life also while taking her own through drinking poison.
So, in the history we find that phenotypes are not necessarily exalted, yet acknowledged as epithets by well educated, warrior class ruling people. Such as in Irish, Fionn meaning fair, Donn meaning brown, and Ruadh meaning red.
Connection to kin is valued most, especially in derbfine mating dynamics, when clans interbred within 1:4 or 1:7 degrees, as is needed. Take double helix structure of DNA for example, and we can clearly see it weaving upon itself.
Another point of reference is how Mongfionn’s love clearly was misguided, since she sought to first remove a step-son, then husband, then her own blood-brother for her first born son to gain power.
The love of a mother surely is unique, yet not pure solely to the fair skinned peoples of our realm, amidst apparent spiritual significance available for education among all cultures.
So to say, as “Natives” of the Americas would put it, there are four winds of peoples.
I summarize it as there are two spectrums with two blendings, and a fifth tawny race, however this begins to differ from the OP, and I perceive much of the content in this topic does so anyways, since very little reference to Chinese culture has been curated.
I leave this post with acknowledgement how expression is important, and this is how more of us are made.