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After extensive research, partly expanded further by the help of what I deem to be web scraping through AI tools to pull research material (rather than solely using it to determinate substance and value of data), there is a phenomenal interaction transmitted hiterto regarding the Gaels and Frisians, in part through collaboration of Anglo-Saxon contemporary peers.

In Ireland, these Anglo-Saxons founded and maintained a monastery (Rath Melsigi) that focused their faith based on the model of the Irish connections to, for all intents and purposes, world building based on the ideals of what the Irish monasteries had already developed.

A student of this cross cultural development, named Willibrord (lived circa 658-739), of Northumbrian origin, went as one of 12 total monks on a mission to convert the Frisians to the faith, and later became the first bishop of the Diocese of Utrecht.


The Frisian king of the period was Radbod (Redbad) whom was clearly the perennial warrior chief of the era, and set on a path to unify much of the territory under one kingdom, fighting with continental contemporaries.

Later, one of Radbod’s descendants, Saint Radbod, was a subsequent bishop of Utrecht.

I will further link this post (as I am gearing to finish the OP, especially with this content as a focal point for the Gaelic and Frisian connection), with the relevant data in ensuing periods.

However, I point out that in my research, there was another piece of knowledge that was a potential caveat to the Irish-Northumbrian mission to Frisia, that being how Radbod was in fact a raider of Southern Ireland (and the mission was in part a response for the raids).

This needs to be researched further, although it is apparent the mission occurred around the year 690.

The original sources about Willibrord and the Radbods do not appear authentic to me, but rather fiction from the early years of the printing press: 15th or 16th century — in the best cases (somewhat) based on real events and names, but placed too far back in time. The same goes for sources about Antiquity and the Romans. I am still in the middle of a radical mental reorganisation, but all starts to make more sense already and there does not seem to be a way back into the old paradigm.
It's good practice to ask what is the oldest source about X; when, where and by whom was it discovered; first referred to; first published in print. You will discover that the answers are either vague or it's always the same network: church, ‘Latin schools’, universities, so-called Humanists (and their successors). Aiming to steal and distort the history of the conquered. It does not make these sources completely worthless. Once you recognise the patterns, it becomes more easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

ott wrote: 23 Aug 2026, 05:48 The original sources about Willibrord and the Radbods do not appear authentic to me, but rather fiction from the early years of the printing press: 15th or 16th century

ott wrote: 23 Aug 2026, 05:48Once you recognise the patterns, it becomes more easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I knew you’d be right nearer to the truth regarding this Gaelic-Frisian connection, since Rodbad is apparently (to your printing press point) the last independent ruler of Frisia (pre-christianization).

Regarding the confluence of these known peoples, and disputed events and chronology, my estimation is the pseudo (factual) Irish historical narratives (post dating Túathal circa 1900 years before present for his death) are roughly 300 years backwards from their actual placement.

Where this begets the concordance of actual events with real timeline of years for separate and distinct people from Irish is our primary hurdle, I perceive.

Tacking on the 300 years for Willibrord (if a legitimate character) puts him close to circa less than 1000 years before present (or 1039 common era for his death).

In the case of Túathal (and Niall), Tuathal’s death would be more appropriate in the region of Niall’s death (400 common era and 1600 years before present) with his direct descendant, in Niall, being more appropriate for his exploits in the region of 700-800 common era (1200-1300 years ago).

As a seer and proponent of sourcing personal visions and others discernment (among the plethora of material both true and false found among online and offline sources post printing press era), Niall (coincidentally the last non-Christian high king of Ireland to unite all the island, in comparison to Rodbad’s supposed exploits), certainly is closer to 1300 years before present than 1600 years ago.

Regarding the contamination of who what when and where for the false script, versus the truthful data, the Anglo (and or Saxon) connection of Northumbrians in Ireland is attested in both peoples chronicles, which give a raid made by Northumbrians into Ireland, as well as one of Niall’s progeny (a female named Fín whom is his 1:6 or 1:7 degree descendent) marrying the prince of the Northumbrian kingdom (Oswiu) which coincided significant battles between the Scots (Gaels) and the fledgling kingdoms of Bernecia and Deria (the two Anglo kingdoms which formed the later Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Northumbria).


This marriage, and battles, among the apparent momentary establishment of a monastery in Ireland (by foreigners such as Northumbrians), pivots multiple events together for sourcing timeline corrections.

Adding the Frisians into the mix is where it gets hairy (for this particular data set), because of the massive chronological influx, however in terms of the genealogy, it appears both the major islands, which used to be connected to the continent (see OP’s land submersion infographic), have decent starting points based on the genealogy and apparent events.

I attached the rough workings of a preliminary maternal ancestry of Niall to this post which is heavily referenced in my introductory thesis for Filí na hÉireann.

Meaning, Niall is potentially a descendent of the historical Odin (Woden), whose son(s) established the kingdom of Gododdin in northeast Albion, below the Firth of Forth underneath what is known to be Pictland, then, later his descendant (as indicated) merged one of this figure’s lineages with the widely claimed to be pseudo genealogy of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms of England prior to the Norman conquest.

So Niall’s era being 700-800s (1200-1300 years ago) and his descendants intercepting historical events in Anglo-Saxon chronicles, reframing to be sometime in the 950s-1100s (900-1050 years ago) presents a pivot point to coordinate any Frisian (ideally native) claims of exploits of prominent figures (or any remembered figures for that matter) from about 45-55 generations ago.

Cú Chulainn wrote: 23 Aug 2026, 19:03

ott wrote: 23 Aug 2026, 05:48 early years of the printing press: 15th or 16th century

Niall’s era being 700-800s (1200-1300 years ago)

Following up on timeline discrepancies multiplied by the added dilutive force of chronological propaganda, made possible by the advent of industrialized printing material, preceding such a tool were continuously re-transcribed documents, such as the Oera Linda book.

In this particular case, mosaics (with stone edifices and artifacts in the mix the farther back history is assessed).

The mosaic in question was found in 2020, located in the Rutland portion of England, and prescribed to depict the battle of Achilles and Hector, followed by the subsequent dragging of Hector by chariot, and the weighing of the dead body to gold in front of both Achilles and Priam.

High definition photos of the three panels found here.

Apparently the third panel of the mosaic is featured only within the lost play of Aeschylus, regarding the weighing of Hector’s body.


Achilles face and hair matches the Iliad’s description of him (xanthē [ξανθή] translated as fair, yellow, golden, or reddish-brown), and it is apparent he is a much larger individual than Hector based on the imagery.

Although, the contrast to the standard Iliad text is how Achilles rides at Hector naked (presuming this depiction is based on Achilles proving to Hector it is him, rather than Patroclus wearing Achilles armor, whom was slain earlier by Hector; versus, in the usual Iliad version, where Achilles gains new armor).

Unfortunately, the part with Hector’s body being dragged and weighed, Achilles is unable to be seen, however it is a keen insight into the thoughts of prior peoples, post Trojan war, in deciding upon how to detail the warriors.

In regards to how this relates to this Gaelic chronology post, and any potential Frisian extractions available, I find it quite striking how the dating of the apparent Roman mosaic is dated to between 1,600 and 1,800 years old (between 3rd and 4th centuries common era).

If the standard timeline is correct, then this would indeed be Niall’s era, however with my hypothesis, for Gaelic (Irish) historic chronicles being roughly 300 years off (primarily for last two thousand years, since the error in dated years continues to grow the further back one looks), it would be closer to Túathal and Cormac’s era.

There are certainly civilizational layers that we can use to determine advents of culture and technology.

Although as this forum has found quite clearly, among counter mainstream hypotheses, there is a certain, purposeful attempt to dilute the true chronology by mixing up multiple aspects of historical data.

One of these in particular, regarding the Gaels and their contemporary Scythian foes, is the use of chariots in Ireland and Britain.

For example, the Fír Bolg (mentioned briefly in part 1 and part 2 of the OP), are said to be the man of the bags (built upon a story about this Scythian tribe working in Greece, then rising up in revolt and fashioning ships out of bags to traverse to Ireland where they settled and eventually, for a time, were kings of Ireland).

This is absolutely preposterous, since Fír translates to both truth (Fír flaithmon as truth of the Prince or ruler’s judgement) and people in Gaelic linguistics, and due to recent research, built on by native Gaelic synthesizers of Phoenician and Gaelic dialects, Bolg actually is closer to chariot than bag.

Thus, Fír Bolg translates to People (or Tribe) of the Chariot.

In all practicality it renders well with Irish lore, since the Táin Bó Cúailnge epic and Ulster Cycle heavily use chariots in their stories.

The modern challenge is that Ireland is not a practical topography for chariot use, but any novice viewer of maps can easily see that great swaths of plains (in part made by the Gaelic chiefs) center throughout the middle part of the island from Connaught to Leinster.


Britain as well is historically known to have implemented the use of chariots throughout its tribal historiography, and obviously they are a formidable weapon of war that align with more ancient timelines.

So, to wit, we have a cross cultural war vehicle that transcends people and eras, placed in a general region unrelated (as far as we know, see Iliad in the Baltics and the Fenian cycle) to the traditional Trojan War, continued in transmission as an artifice designed by supposed descendents (Aeneid) of the survivors of the fall of Troy.

Coincidentally, near the median between the land mass of Frisia and Éire.

Very interesting.
Many thanks, Cú.
Much of it is too unfamiliar to me to relate to, but the more I know, the more it will make sense.
Do you have thoughts on Troy’s location and when its last war was fought?

You’re welcome, Ott! Yes, it is very similar for me with OLB material, and I feel once I grasp more of the language, it will help connect more threads

As for the Trojans of Troy, it is an excellent question.

There’s a personal reference which I will leave for the end, since it is related to seership and more founded in my own experience with group visioning (in my field of work, there is a definitive aggregate threshold to peering deeper into consciousness when surrounded by others, especially of likened kindred, whom are seeking similar results).

Without diverging too far into the void, I sat with the two part question for the better part of this weekend, pragmatically because the first response is that it is still occurring, in its ancient essence, by being accessible by seers, regardless of the era.

In the grounded truth, the chronological dating does become more honed when knowing its location, and for obvious reasons, understanding of either how that city falling was the end of the nation state, or with its people in flight, then it as the culture being continued, would persist in most likely perpetual wars to this era (I.e the ripple affects are still being played out today in modern wars, with women, subjectively right or not, an objective resource weighed differently on several sides).

The location seems more apt to speak on for the vision I will transmit here, but in the case of the last war, I can satirically pull from the Gaelic sources, since they ironically (being of fair hair and complexion themselves among the vary phenotypes of Scythian tribes) chose to venerate their warriors likened unto Hector rather than Achilles.

Why this is the case, I’m unsure, yet the son of the famous High King of Ireland, truly the last to challenge the island to unite it all under Gaelic pressure, in Brian Ború, was acknowledged as Hector’s equal in his time, Murchad.

At their head was the incomparable, ever-triumphant Hector of the marvellous, many-nationed descendants of Adam, that is Brian’s son, Murchad, the Yew of Ross of Ireland’s rulers..
— The War of the Gaedhil with the Gaill

Quite plainly, in Irish, Ro be sin int Ectoir intamlaigtech na Erend (He was the metaphorical Hector of all-victorious Ireland).

It further goes on to actually rank the men, in general, in comparison to what Hector would equal in regards to Murchad being the foremost Gaelic warrior (showing an apparent affinity by Gaels to understanding the value of a warrior such as Hector).

Hector was a match for seven like Lugh Lamfhada, who was equal to seven like Conall Cernach, who was equal to seven like Lugh Lagha, who was equal to seven like Mac Samhain, who was equal to seven like Murchadh; so that Hector was a match for 16,807 such heroes as Murchadh with all his valour.
— The War of the Gaedhil with the Gaill

Knowing how Hector must have come before Murchad to compare the Prince of Troy to the two-blade wielding Prince of Erin, we can assert that Troy’s last war (with the fall of the city of Troy ended its wars), was no less than 1,012 years ago prior to the Battle of Clontarf in 1014 common era.

Definitively this is the last great battle of thousands of Gaels and foreigners prior to the Anglo-Norman (Cambrian) invasion of Ireland in 1169 common era.

So to say, the dating of the Battle of Clontarf is no further than +/-1,000 years ago, yet due to the compression of events and dating as we know has occurred, and the influx of the movement of men and resources during the post papal bull invasion of Ireland by different foreigners such as the Cambrians and Normans, the Battle of Clontarf could be as close as +/-850 years ago.

Secondly, an additional frame of reference to determine the chronology of the fall of Troy (again, the city falling being its last war), slightly beyond Murchad’s time, occurs with a direct agnatic descendent of Niall, in Muirchertach mac Néill.

Muircheartach of the Leather Cloaks, son of Niall Glúndubh, lord of Aileach, the Hector of the west of Europe in his time..
— Annals of the Four Masters

His death is dated (where the timeline spacing begins to show) either in 941 or 943 common era, about 1,083-1,085 years before present.

Therefore, Hector and the city of Troy are at least a thousand years old, which most would agree upon.

Without assessing the will of the mainstream dating too keenly, since the dating is between 13th and 11th century before common era, or 3,100 to 3,300 years before present, with Eratosthenes giving roughly 1194-1184 before common era (3110-3120 years before present), I lean on what my vision offered and the general generations of Neoptolemus’ lineage, in the Kingdom of Epirus, the son of Achilles.

Regardless of the actual connections, utilizing pedigrees is important for framing one’s mind to the depth of how far back certain figures can be placed in the timeline, for any culture or region.

Thus, someone like Alexander the Great, whom claimed descent from Achilles by Neoptolemus, can be framed as 1:11 generational degrees, or 10th in descent from Neoptolemus, then weighing him to a potential descendent (by the enatic lineage through a daughter) in Gagik I of Armenia, at 1:58 generational degrees, or 57th in descent from Neoptolemus, it can be generated that the fall of Troy as a city (with its last war being fought) was more likely 1300 years before Murchad and Muirchertach‘s era, or about 2,300 years before present.

Gagik I died in 1020 common era, apparently, and Armenia is a close locale to the traditional location of Troy, and bearing the load of the usual satire, a location by which the original Gaels launched from to begin their sea voyages from the Black to Aegean to Mediterranean seas, then eventually the Atlantic Ocean.

When assessing Niall, he ranges in the 55th generation range from myself, so to say, I would be 54th from him (among numerous pathways to the figure), and as I’ve previously outlined in this thread of posts, that amount of generations maps out 1200-1300 years more so than 1600 years (which is the divergence from the traditional dating of Niall, and a path to redact the dating of other prominently known figures).

Combining these hypotheses, between generations backwards and references to figures in certain eras, the fall of the city of Troy is more likely than not backdated with the mainstream theory (which would make sense to push such potent lore beyond the general memory of folk in need of cultural synthesis).

As I had stated above, I will come back to the vision since it relates more to the topography of the city.

The Iliad in the Baltics never sat quite right with me, although the theory could be honing in on the solvency of similar voyages and invasions, which is why I mentioned the Fenian cycle, where Fionn mac Cumhaill and his Fianna literally fight the King of the World and all the armies of the known world (and win).

Dáire Donn (Donn meaning brown haired) had a wife (daughter of the king of France) whom Fionn eloped with (sound familiar?), then Dáire sailed an enormous fleet to County Kerry (in Ireland) where they landed at Ventry Harbour (kings from and of France, Norway, Greece, Spain, Saxons, India and the far East all joined Dáire).

Fionn slew Dáire Donn in single combat (with the aide of the Tuatha Dé Danann, since prior to their arrival they were losing the battle).

This would be the era of Cormac Mac Airt around 1700–1800 years before present (or 1400-1500 years before present when adjusting the Gaelic chronological history).

A far too conveniently similar story to the Iliad..

However, in my vision of the aforementioned example hitherto given, it coincided the vision I received regarding Niall running in the vanguard (each held various portions, yet this one specific to Achilles).

Like HD (high definition) I saw the beach of Troy and its city far off (insinuating a coastal terrain rather than fjords) with tall, fair slender warriors, two in particular, overlooking from a form of green oasis on an adjacent hill at the other end of the beach.

Clearly, to me, a younger version of Achilles and Patroclus, yet the oddity in the scene was the focus (in nature having gifted this second sight).

Then, similar to the battle I saw of Niall, yet atypical in its scenery, a dust storm where the spear tip from an unseen shaft was bellowing from the plume and piercing warrior after warrior unopposed (Achilles dancing).

Beyond, this is two fold, and what I feel dismembers the fantasy of the playwright assuming Achilles rode naked, first, Hector himself, after running from Achilles (anticipated) standing in front of a tree, naked, with the focus on his face and teethy smile (I’ve never seen a clearer vision even of Niall himself), almost taunting the son of Pelides knowing his death was there, but his body was un afraid.

Second, it went to a less high definition viewing of an enraged Achilles in that new armor, with wroth akin to anger I’ve never felt in this life, gripping that now seen spear shaft (right hand) and with a much more muscled body than seen in the first vision over looking the beach.

So, this was in a meditative state fostered by a learned Celtic studies practitioner of two plus decades (and Apache helicopter Vietnam war veteran, potentially an aide to the gravity of the war visions), where another person had only recounted seeing the land and being taken by said nature through a forest and stream up and around a waterfall like watershed (whether the vision was tethered I didn’t ask, however multiple others recalled similar experiences in this particular event).

That was about four years ago, and while some details are much more personal for the self only, it is clear the larger visions are meant to be shared, otherwise what is the point of claiming to be a Filidh, let alone a Druid.

Therein, the wars have never ended, but the city did fall, and that event is something and somewhere that can be scrutinized enough to be found, but ideally only through truth in the data.

The length of this post ideally sheds more light on the Gaelic chronology and its relation to contemporary world events, and to awaken those gold nuggets inside the readers whom seek more knowledge, since several of our posts (so far we are the only to post in this thread, Ott) have achieved over 100,000 views to date.

For now, I can only thank you, Cú.
Your account was a great read for me, shortly after a night without too much sleep.