Hi everyone. I live and work in Pakistan's Punjab province near the Indus River and have been looking for evidence of Oera Linda settlement, which is mentioned at least twice in the book.
From my own research I have uncovered two graveyards with the Oera Linda 6 pointed Sunwheel in prominent display. One I learned of in 2021 and other one last weekend (13 Oct 2024). That last one is located in a town called Dargai and reasonably close to the first one location. Unfortunately the first location was robbed last year and the main grave with text on it was desecrated. The Dargai cemetery has two ancient sections with graves dating to pre-Islamic times and none of the locals know who is buried there. Most of the graves are overgrown with prickly vines and there are snakes living there so I only saw a few headstones in open areas but most of the symbols look related to Oera Linda. There are also Viking symbols on graves too.
The graveyard is owned by the local tribal town council who were reasonably helpful in showing me around. Does anyone have suggestions on what to do next?
Thanks, Paul
Oera Linda in Punjab
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My suggestions:
- Seek out headstones with text.
- Seek out headstones with other ancient symbols, such as those exhibited in Immortal Symbols.
- Inquire the local tribal town council for any resources, pictures, descriptions etc. that they might have about the headstones.
- Inquire locals about the history of the tombstones and the history of the area.
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Re: Oera Linda in Punjab
Thanks for your reply.
In Pakistan there is a problem about investigating too much as some people may suspect treasure and dig up the graves. Last year in a different location where similar graves are, it was robbed and rumoured to contain gold and silver items. Such rumours encourage more stealing.
I did plan to visit the Kalash Valley last week but flights were cancelled and I didn't want to face the 10 hour drive. I believe the idea that they are related to Alexander the Great came from British researchers rather than from themselves. I have visited the Chitral area (near Kalash) and at least 1% of population are blond and would pass for Europeans. In fact a lot of Pakistani people think I am from that area. On the other side of the border from Kalash Valley and Chitral is Nuristan in Afghanistan where the people are the same tribe and have same language. They also look very European https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAeQKwyUeQ
In about 4 weeks I will visit another graveyard where I expect to find more information. So far, I know more about these places than the local people I interview.
Thanks, Paul
In Pakistan there is a problem about investigating too much as some people may suspect treasure and dig up the graves. Last year in a different location where similar graves are, it was robbed and rumoured to contain gold and silver items. Such rumours encourage more stealing.
I did plan to visit the Kalash Valley last week but flights were cancelled and I didn't want to face the 10 hour drive. I believe the idea that they are related to Alexander the Great came from British researchers rather than from themselves. I have visited the Chitral area (near Kalash) and at least 1% of population are blond and would pass for Europeans. In fact a lot of Pakistani people think I am from that area. On the other side of the border from Kalash Valley and Chitral is Nuristan in Afghanistan where the people are the same tribe and have same language. They also look very European https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAeQKwyUeQ
In about 4 weeks I will visit another graveyard where I expect to find more information. So far, I know more about these places than the local people I interview.
Thanks, Paul
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It may be interesting to have records/pictures of these viking/Alexandrian graves too. Maybe other sites or ruins. Maybe artifacts like lamps. And good for you to be carefull, some Muslims also destroy anything because it's non-muslim. The area once belonging to Kalash and a related tribe(Chitral?) were bigger then currently. I saw a documentary recently about the man who pretended to be a doctor and a local as a cover to study the then deadly protected region.
He Found the Last Pagans of Afghanistan — William Watts McNair
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Re: Oera Linda in Punjab
Welcome to the forum, Paul. Good to see you here. Thank you for posting these much clearer images. Apologies for not having replied to your last email yet. I think it's best to discuss further here, as more people may be interested and able to help. You can be a great source of information about this relatively neglected part of the relevant world for OL studies.
The carved image above the wheel on photos 12 and 14 looks like a wreath, used in ceremonial events by various cultures. Indeed it would be most significant if somewhere letters as in OL, or words as in Fryas language were discovered.
You wrote that you had also visited museums (and libraries?) but they didn't seem to have relevant material. They usually have much more in their depots than on display. If you'd be able to somehow get access to those, you might find more.
The carved image above the wheel on photos 12 and 14 looks like a wreath, used in ceremonial events by various cultures. Indeed it would be most significant if somewhere letters as in OL, or words as in Fryas language were discovered.
You wrote that you had also visited museums (and libraries?) but they didn't seem to have relevant material. They usually have much more in their depots than on display. If you'd be able to somehow get access to those, you might find more.
Re: Oera Linda in Punjab
This labarum image has the elements of the wreath and 6-spoke wheel combined.