this short on german 'werwolf' made me think.
wer-alda= the old man
maybe in old german Wralda would be understood to be 'the old man' making him a male god.
Wer is related to Latin vir, and german wer(who)
The channel is on old German, a lot of insightfull shorts.
sidenote; from the comments I learned that 'Fron' was the male version of 'Frau', maybe 'Frya' was like a nongendered/nongenerational version?
Quelle:
https://www.dwds.de/wb/etymwb/Werwolf
Vocabularius sancti Galli:
https://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/de/list/one/csg/0913
https://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/de/csg/0913/187/0/
new theory on etymology of Wralda
Re: new theory on etymology of Wralda
The phonetic similarity between "Wer-alda" and the Old German "man-old" is a mere coincidence. In the Fryas language, WR.ALDA was articulated as "weralda" or "waralda," despite the fact that WR-, as a prefix, is cognate with German ur- and über-. An investigation into the phonology of Fryas reveals that an E or A sound is inserted between WR. Consequently, WR.ALDA becomes werald or warald, and WRD becomes werd or ward. The spelling WR.ALDA was maintained to preserve the original spelling, and it is plausible that maidens instructed children on its meaning as "ur-alda," though in practice, the more colloquial pronunciation "weralda" or "waralda" was used. Based on these observations, LINDA.WRDA, for instance, is interpreted as "Linda wards." The following is a proposed theory: The Linda region was fortified and connected by roads, with the burg as its capital, ensuring its security. This approach bears resemblance to Roman fortifications. The interpretation of "wer" as "man" may represent a later innovation in Old Saxon and Old English, potentially derived from the Fryas term WÉRAR, meaning "defender." Old Frisian dictionaries list an unattested *wer for "man" due to the assumption that newer words of this nature existed in Old Frisian.
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Re: new theory on etymology of Wralda
yeah agree, it's just a theory. It is probably the mainstream logic for the etymology for 'world'. But fair to mention.
I find the over-old etymology the most pausible root, but maybe Germans also fell for the false friend, giving a layup for a male interpretation for the gender of God. Moreover,'Old man' could be how Wralda got (con)fused with Kronos later on in Frya derived beliefs.
'Wer' as 'man' having it's root in 'protecting', like warrior and wehr(german)is not strange as it would be the task of a man. In the comments somebody suggested it would be the male form of weib.
I find develloping a feeling for identifing phonemes satisfying. Phonemes, I learned from this channel, are single sounds that have meaning; like signifying gender or case. So for instance (-r) could be showing an active role, or masculine gender.
I find the over-old etymology the most pausible root, but maybe Germans also fell for the false friend, giving a layup for a male interpretation for the gender of God. Moreover,'Old man' could be how Wralda got (con)fused with Kronos later on in Frya derived beliefs.
'Wer' as 'man' having it's root in 'protecting', like warrior and wehr(german)is not strange as it would be the task of a man. In the comments somebody suggested it would be the male form of weib.
I find develloping a feeling for identifing phonemes satisfying. Phonemes, I learned from this channel, are single sounds that have meaning; like signifying gender or case. So for instance (-r) could be showing an active role, or masculine gender.
Re: new theory on etymology of Wralda
There are multiple facets to this. If Wralda is compared to its Norse version Freyr the 'world' god and via connecting link of Bock saga's Frei-Sampo to Asian Mahasammata genealogies, the possible concept for both 'world' and 'old age' come apparent. In some mythoses the first man to die becomes the death god. These are in the Asian east the Yamas and Yimas, same as European Jumi/Iumi/Ymi/Ymir and Roman I.O.M. for Jove or Jupiter.
Such a character would have been
- the first and thus the oldest
- the metaphorical "owner" of the planet, its humans and human culture
- likely a male, with the female counterpart in Frya aka Freyja.
The way the Wralda has been made into a literal world-spirit in OL hides this male-female aspect, very apparent in other attested European versions and thus allowing for a non-binary world spirit of which all creation is downstream of. As in: even further above in rank as our local father the sun and local mother the earth. By calling Atlantic ocean 'world sea', OL narrative further cements this line of thinking.
This Frisian concept may have been the original role model for Plato's concept of single major God (e.g. Laws) and the textually associated Biblical concept of single major God - the latter we know with certainty to be a re-write of original Middle Eastern one-god-among-many concept. In one of the more blatant cases of copy'n'paste jobs, the God of OT Job 37 is based on Buddhist original (Mahāgovindasutta), where high god Brahma visits 33 lesser rank gods, leader of which group is the wind or air god Indra; in Europe Inmar, Ilmarinen, Ilmaris, of which medieval Latin Olimarus and Old Norse female pair Ilmatar as goddess Ilmr.
Such a character would have been
- the first and thus the oldest
- the metaphorical "owner" of the planet, its humans and human culture
- likely a male, with the female counterpart in Frya aka Freyja.
The way the Wralda has been made into a literal world-spirit in OL hides this male-female aspect, very apparent in other attested European versions and thus allowing for a non-binary world spirit of which all creation is downstream of. As in: even further above in rank as our local father the sun and local mother the earth. By calling Atlantic ocean 'world sea', OL narrative further cements this line of thinking.
This Frisian concept may have been the original role model for Plato's concept of single major God (e.g. Laws) and the textually associated Biblical concept of single major God - the latter we know with certainty to be a re-write of original Middle Eastern one-god-among-many concept. In one of the more blatant cases of copy'n'paste jobs, the God of OT Job 37 is based on Buddhist original (Mahāgovindasutta), where high god Brahma visits 33 lesser rank gods, leader of which group is the wind or air god Indra; in Europe Inmar, Ilmarinen, Ilmaris, of which medieval Latin Olimarus and Old Norse female pair Ilmatar as goddess Ilmr.