The Spread of Archeological Cultures associated with Finno-Ugric languages.

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The Spread of Archeological Cultures associated with Finno-Ugric languages.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2mOwES0CCQ
The video I linked seems to give some interesting perspective on the Finno-Ugric peoples as they spread through Eurasia. The fact that they excelled in Bronze-work makes more sense to those on this Forum who will have heard how the Frya's had Iron even in the so called bronze age, wheras Finda's folk had only flint and copper(The main ingredient in "Bronze" for Indo-Iranic people).
Most of the dates match, though the invasion of East Skeanland would be dated later in this model.
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The linguistic and cultural divide between the Sami, Finns, and Estonians in the west and their Siberian counterparts in the east aligns with the OLB narrative that posits the displacement of the Finns by another people, the Magyars, who are believed to have arrived from the Altai Mountains, a region also known as the origin of the Moghuls/Mongols and the shamanic priest people who exerted significant influence over the Indians. Consequently, the linguistic gap in Eastern Europe can be attributed to the early migration of the Magyars.

The Slavic languages, therefore, are likely the result of the amalgamation of the Finns, Magyars, and Fryas, specifically the Swedish settlers from Roslagen. Prior to this development, the concept of a distinct Slavic people, as they are recognized today, was nonexistent. It is plausible that Gosa's letter concerning the purity of language was intended as a commentary on the early Slavs, a period during which they were still consolidating their identity as Rus and spoke an inconsistent form of Proto-Slavic.

The term "Aldland" is a generic designation for "ancestral lands." Consequently, when the OLB Findas migrated from Aldland and the Fryas migrated from the submerged Aldland, it can be interpreted that they each sought refuge from the devastated regions of their respective homelands in response to the 4.2 ka event. In this context, the Finda homeland is theorized to be situated in the Altai Mountains (or more broadly within Central Asia). The Frya homeland, on the other hand, is believed to be Europe, and perhaps the island of Frisland, as depicted in ancient maps, a topic discussed by Alewyn J. Raubenheimer in Chronicles From Pre-Celtic Europe. When the Fryas asserted that the Finda Aldland lies beneath the sea, it is plausible to infer that they presumed the Findas also experienced seismic events and floods similar to those that afflicted Europe. However, due to the vast distance separating them, there was no means to verify this supposition.
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I still haven't read Chronicles From Pre-Celtic Europe., but now that I've been saving I should go ahead. I'm still not sold on this "Atland being the homeland of Fryas", but i might as well hear the late writer and what he has to say.
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Did you read it?

It's a good resource, but might have been better if this forum had existed when it was written.

His case for a sunken land in the North Sea in the region of the Faroe Islands is a strong one. Mercator even drew such an Island- and named it Friesland. Was Mercator trolling?

OLB describes a succession of large floods. The sinking of Doggerland, a region that connected England to mainland Europe-

But if we spin it even further back, we get into the murky waters of the Hyperborean Myth.

Every 'indo-european' myth system from the vedas to the eddas retains encrypted information that points to the polar region. This makes sense for Scandinavian lore, who would have seen Siegfried riding against the Dragon over the wavering flames of Brynhyld every night. From whence did other early writers derive the Polar Tradition?

It is known that Greenland used to be green- tropical, even. And that the entire artic circle is flush with ancient palm fronds and the jumbled bones of megafauna preserved in a thick sheet of mud and ice.

Whatever cataclysm caused this is outside the chronology of the OLB, but the possibility that the complex civilization of the Fryans, with its disdain for superstition and idolatry, its government by consensus, and it's access to high-level technologies like paper-making, ironworking, and deep-sea navigation has been developed from great antiquity in what are now the polar regions is intriguing.
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