Connecting the dots, the bigger picture

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Connecting the dots, the bigger picture

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In the last months this forum seems a bit dead, and it makes me a bit sad. There is so much more to explore. I just want to use this forum to get a better understanding of our world, past and present. Lately I feel like I start to finally see how everything fits together. I am humble enough not to rule out the possibility that I might be totally wrong, but you have to prove me wrong to convince me.

Reading Fomenko left me confused. Although it seems clear to me that our historical time line is altered, its hard to believe all our written history would have happened in the last thousand years, as Fomenko claims. Maybe its due to his Russian nationalist bias, since another thing about his theory hard for me to swallow, is that world history is supposedly basically Russian. And Russians don't exists that long, so for that Fomenko needs a short time frame.

Lately I have been reading the work of Polat Kaya, and it has been very enlightening. Kaya claims the following. When the last ice age came to an end and the climate got warmer, Europe got inhabited from the east, by Turanians, or ancient Turks. During the ice age they used to live in Central Asia, unlike Europe and Northern America, most of Asia remained ice free. When the ice started melting, an extremely large lake formed suddenly in Central Asia, as Kaya claims, this was the origin of the flood 'myths'.

According to Kaya, once the whole world spoke Turkish. I think we can see a Turkish nationalist bias here, and full disclosure, the whole Turanian theory is according to the mainstream extreme right wing propaganda, and surely this theory is exactly what Turkish nationalists like to hear (The Kurds and Armenians are also Turks who got separated from the rest, divide and rule).

It might be partially true. Kaya shows convincingly how the Euskara or Basque language is a manipulated form of Turkish. It is assumed this pre Indo-European language was once spoken in large parts of Europe, before the 'Aryan' invasion. Officially no one knows where the language came from. So if it is really Turkish, its an important clue.

According to Kaya, Aryan means wanderer in Turkish, so the Aryans are Roma or Gypsies from India. Of course they claim themselves it means 'noble', because that's what they were not, that's why they took power by marrying into the Turanian royal families. They took over the rule in Egypt from the Turanians, and changed the name of the country to Egypt to claim it theirs! I guess I can call them Gypsies if they apparently used that name for themselves in the past? Maybe they changed it into Roma when 'their' empire was built? But as Leland states, the Gypsies called themselves already in India Rom, meaning 'a real gypsy'. The name Gypsy comes according a Gypsy legend, from chen-kan, or zingan, meaning moon-sun.

I was always interested in Gypsies, the wandering lifestyle, it seemed romantic to me, the freedom, or maybe I feel a connection also. I always liked the classic Rumanian music. My uncle who worked in a circus, also a curious fact. Since I know my surname is not only used by Jews but also by Gypsies, I am even more intrigued.

Turns out I am not the only one. As Leland writes; 'I have frequently been asked, “Why do you take an interest in gypsies?” And it is not so easy to answer.  Why, indeed?  In Spain one who has been fascinated by them is called one of the aficion, or affection, or “fancy;” he is an aficionado, or affected unto them, and people there know perfectly what it means, for every Spaniard is at heart a Bohemian.  He feels what a charm there is in a wandering life, in camping in lonely places, under old chestnut-trees, near towering cliffs, al pasar del arroyo, by the rivulets among the rocks.  He thinks of the wine skin and wheaten cake when one was hungry on the road, of the mules and tinkling bells, the fire by night, and the cigarito, smoked till he fell asleep.  Then he remembers the gypsies who came to the camp, and the black-eyed girl who told him his fortune, and all that followed in the rosy dawn and ever onward into starry night.'

The following Gypsy song is from the same book:

'The wind whistles over the heath,
The moonlight flits over the flood;
And the gypsy lights up his fire,
In the darkness of the wood.
  Hurrah!
In the darkness of the wood.
Free is the bird in the air,
And the fish where the river flows;
Free is the deer in the forest,
And the gypsy wherever he goes.
  Hurrah!
And the gypsy wherever he goes.'

Kaya claims the Etruscans were Turanians, so Rome was a Turanian city. The 'Aryans' came much later and took over. Greek and Latin are manufactured languages, the priests changed Turkish in a completely new language. Here I think Kaya goes a bit too far, claiming all Indo European and Semitic languages are derived from Turkish. I am getting more and more convinced that the 'Romans' came from Romania. The Romanian language is the closest to classic Latin of all languages, and I think that is not a coincidence. The Oera Linda book makes me believe that the ancient Frisian language was also an original, and Latin might be a mix of Frisian, Romanian and Turkish?. So in my new understanding are the Gypsies like the Jews, they are supposed to be the eternal scapegoat, the underdog, but their elite cousins rule the world, and need their less privileged cousins as eternal scapegoats for their own crimes. Funny how the elite seems to be proud to be part of the chosen people whenever it fits them, but no one in their right mind would want to admit to be Gypsy.

According to the Oera Linda, both Europeans and Asians came from Altland, and this confirms our Turanian or Tartarian if you like, history. Kaya states how Europe is artificially created, all we need to know about what a scam Europe is, is to know it was the name of a Phoenician princess. Of course Europe is just the western peninsula of the Eurasian continent.

The Phoenicians are supposed to be a Semitic people, but from the Oera Linda we know they were a mix of Frya's folk and Canaanites. For Kaya they were all Turanian. I think he is right, if you see Turanian as a name for the people of Eurasia, or at least a big part of it. So it includes both nordic looking people, as well 'mongoloid'. Both peoples survivors of the same flood. Being 'Caucasian' finally starts to make sense!

The Moors or Murs, who ruled Iberia for centuries, are usually thought of to be Arabs and/or black Africans. In the Netherlands, while the rest of the world was burning (yeah I know, its mostly theatre), one of the major debates in society of the last years, was the racist concept of 'Zwarte Piet'. Turns out Black Pete was never black, Saint Nicolas' helpers were enslaved Moors, and they were not black. Mur in Turkish means Purple, so who else can they be than the Phoenicians (including a big North African Berber influence, who are in part themselves descendants of the Carthagenians).

If we accept that the ancient Iberians (not only the Basques) were Turanian, it makes a lot of sense that a lot of Sephardic Jews fled to the Ottoman empire after the inquisition. The Turks were always very tolerant towards the Jews.

Of course many went to the 'new' world, in fact so many, that we call a big part of it 'Latin America'. If you know that the Sephardic Jews had their own language; Ladino, everything becomes crystal clear. Of course it was just a change of names, and flags. Soon after the 'Christians' took over the last part of Al Andalus (Granada), their colony of Granada in North America got a new name. Early maps of the Americas shows mostly Catalan and Ottoman flags, they got replaced by the flags of Castile and Leon, and later also the English and the Dutch. It is a bit weird that the Spanish and Portuguese got to the Americas a century earlier than the English and Dutch. It seems like the Jewish Catalan prince (Nasi) known by the name Columbus, really got the whole thing for himself, as a present of the Pope. Maybe the Jews of the north got jealous and 'protested', and became 'protestants' as a result?

I am sure I still don't see the full picture, though. Tamil Tigers would eat the Grey Wolves raw, if you understand what I mean. Like some claim Turkish is the worlds original language, others say it is Tamil. The Tamils have their own altland; the lost continent of Kumari Kandam, better known in the West as Lemuria. All black people are said to be from this continent, that once stretched from Madagaskar until Indonesia. Sri Lanka is supposed to be the last remnant of this massive continent. This theory explains how we find black people in Africa, but also in Papua New Guinea and Australia. It would be ironic if this is all true, because its the opposite of what we all learned in school, the 'Out of Africa' theory. Not that I would be surprised, I mean, in the smoke and mirrors world we live in.

It is also good to mention that there is a connection between the Dravidian/Tamil languages of South India, and Hebrew. According to scholars, early Jewish traders settled there, that's why some words are similar. But what if the Jews originally came from India (or Kumari Kandam), like the Gypsies?

The story about slavery is not black and white, like the current narrative focusing just on the trans-Atlantean slave trade. Slave trade was always a Semitic business, the Phoenicians (by then corrupted by the local Canaanites, speaking in the local proto Hebrew language), Jews and Arabs were not racist, in the sense they didn't care about the skin color of their merchandise. Christians got protection to a certain degree, I guess this was the carrot that made us accept the religion of the 'Aryans', the Abraham/Brahmans. So to be free we accepted to be enslaved by our priests? Makes a lot of sense.

Also I want to point out to the people who shout right wing extremist at me for talking about Jews and Gypsies, and giving attention to Turkish propaganda (I am also starting to doubt the historical truthfulness of the Armenian genocide for instance), the current narrative is fine for nationalists in Greece or Italy. Also the 'wandering people' made sure to write themselves a glorious history, by stealing the inventions of the Turanians and claim them as their own. Its weird how fascists and Nazis idolised the Roman past, without leaving a stain on it. It's extremely ironic that the real Aryans, according to the history that cannot be doubted because it's illegal, went to Poland to get exterminated. Some Jews had to die to make the Zionist dream come true. Without a certain Austrian crypto Jew, and German capital, Israel would not be such a big success. Still this does not make me an anti Semite (crypto) Jew. I simply try to understand my family and ancestors a little. Being part of a tribe never determinates if someone is good or evil. Okay, maybe stealing is culturally accepted among Gypsies, and changing and stealing languages to totally enslave people, just a hobby from some weird desert wanderers.. We don't escape our Karma. Being part of the families is as much a curse as a gift.

Speaking of the Greeks, I guess this Turanian link solves it all, who was first, the Greeks or the Turks. They both claim the same land, culture, food... They even look the same. The only difference seems to be the language, turns out the Greek one just being a corrupted form of Turkish. I hope they are reading this in Cyprus, so they know they are all Turanians, it was just a game of divide and rule from the priest class.

Talking about the priest class, let me be clear, there are no coincidences, just cohencidences, if you get what I mean. And no, that is not a racist thing to say, because we Jews, are a racially mixed tribe. I am just a rebellious Jew, who especially since 2020, likes to speak out. For me ALL the people of Israel/Palestine are right now as much a victim of propaganda and genocide as it was in the previous war. By speaking out, I prove the real racists/extremists wrong, not all Jews are part of the conspiracy.

Shalom

https://www.polatkaya.net/

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Relation to the Early History of the World, (1880), Cambridge University Press on behalf of the Royal Historical Society

Leland, C.G. The Gypsies,(1882), The Riverside Press, Cambridge

Oera Linda

Pujadas, A.M. The other colonisation of America, according to maps and neochronology. (2023) Self published.

Victor, Ma. So., Naanjil Amal, The submerged Kumari continent (The Home of Ancient Tamils), (2014) Yaathisai Publications
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Thank you Jan, for making me feel welcome on this forum, and for all the work you have done. And thanks for giving me a little positive feedback, giving me more energy and inspiration to write more.

Good Morning! Goede, gute morgen! Am I basically talking in some kind of Turkish right now? I wouldn't have thought so, now I am not so sure anymore. According to Kaya, 'Mor Gün' means 'purple day', so it is an ancient way to greet, referring to the purple morning sun, and the ancient Turanian sky God.

Since I asked before, what came first, Yiddish or German, its curious Kaya notes the Yiddish 'Frimorgn', 'Fri' a bastarised version of 'Bir', Turkish for '1', the one, God. I am pretty sure that the words good and God are connected? So we basically say 'Grüss Gott'. Fri also reminds me of Frya, the first one! The Turanian God comes in many names, Ot or Od being one of them. In the OLB we find the same word/surname with almost the same meaning..

Dear reader, I really need your help. I am really not that smart (IQ just about average for a Jew). Languages are not my strong point. The Turkish language sounds quite alien to me, it seems so hard to believe all languages are derived from Turkish, or Proto Turkish. But the more I am reading Kaya, the more it starts to make sense.

Kaya's website looks very dated, I can't believe it gets a lot of traffic. Most information is in English, but a lot in Turkish also. I did not start to try to translate those, because the English content is already overwhelming. So If what I am writing here inspires you, please help me with this big puzzle. The more people take this serious, the better (if this all turns out to be our real stolen or hidden history).

I feel the OLB and 'Turanian Civilisation Theory' can verify each other.

Turkish was always like Chinese to me. And it still is, but now, the more I learn about it, the more interested I get. What I understand about the Turkish language is that it's very simple and logic. They say the language is like Lego blocks, easy to stack on top of each other. A pure, mathematical language should be very old, like the game of Go (Weiqi, Baduk, or Chinese Chess), very simple and elegant, but extremely complex at the same time, like the universe.

When I pressed 'submit' to publicise the first part of this thread, I knew I should have studied more first, to get a better picture. But I got so excited that I felt like I couldn't wait. And for sure, the picture will never be perfect, due to my limited intellect, knowledge and understanding. So I decided to follow up with a second part, and while I am writing this, I feel, I am going to publish this second part too early again, so I will need to write a part III.

My whole life I felt a cosmopolitan (sorry if that sounds elitist, but we were also dirt poor, my father being an artist painter depending on the Dutch welfare system). My father was German born, so Kindergarten wasn't a walk in the park/garden for me, the other kids calling me 'Mof' (bad word for German), lol. I never felt 100% Dutch. Then I moved to Portugal, and recently I discovered my crypto Jewish ancestry. So I am a wanderer by blood. No wonder I never felt too connected to just that little riverdelta called 'The Netherlands'. For me the low lands can mean Holland or Canaan. But does it really matter if the people of Canaan were from the same stock, the 'indo-europeans', Turanians?

I totally get it if you think I am wrong, this goes against everything we learned, right? To far fetched, simplistic, ridiculous even. Let's see what Kaya has to say about the Jews, and the meaning of the word.

'The Latin "IUDAICUS", when separated letter-by-letter as "I-UD-AI-CUS", is an anagram of Turkish expression "BIR OD AY KOZ" ("BIR, OD, AI, KÖZ", "BIR, GÜN, AY, OGUZ"). These four Turkish words in this expression are the names of the Sky-Father, Sun, Moon and Eye (OGUZ) respectively, that is, the trinity Sky-God of ancient Tur/Turk peoples. Obviously, all of these Turkish names were put together, i.e., anagrammatized, to make one manufactured name "IUDAICUS"'

When Kaya points to the people who are responsible for everything, he calls them wanderers, gypsies, or cabalists. For me that last term is connected to the Jews, and Moorish Spain. And they were Turanians. Kaya explains Cabala as follows: 'If the languages were being manufactured from a model language rather secretly, one would not expect those who did it to come forward and declare "this is what we are doing".  They would do it secretly and behind closed doors, that is, "cabalistically".  I have already pointed out that even the word "CABAL" said to be from Hebrew word "qabbalah"  was actually from the  Turkish word "kapali" meaning "closed, secret, behind closed doors."  Have you ever heard of a secretive group preparing to commit a coup detat coming forward  and declaring what they are going to do?' So here we have the mother of conspiracy theories. The Cabal is our secret ruling class.

Blackrock and Vanguard

Maybe I can assume the reader will know the significance of these names? Two companies ruling the world, the ruling families hiding behind it. If you know Mussolini's definition of Fascism, you know how to call our current political system.

Kaya: The term "CRACY" is an anagram of the Turkish name "KARACU" (KARACI) meaning "wanderer, gypsy". The name "GREEK" is said to be from Greek term "GRAIKOS" [35] . But "GRAIKOS" is an anagram of Turkish expression "GARA AI GÖZ" meaning "Black Moon Eye" indicating that they are "black moon" believers just like the other wanderers of ancient Arabistan. (…) Additionally Greeks are also known by the name "ELLEN" which is ananagram of Turkish expression "yELLi-hEN" (Yelli Han) meaning "Windy-Lord" or "YEL-hAN" meaning "Wind Lord" again indicating that they were also believers of the "wind god" like other wanderers. Thus they were "wanderers" before they became settled in what is presently known as "Greece" which they took from the native Turanians. (…) The second aspect of this ending is a religious one. The ancient "wanderers" believed in "KRONUS" - an anagram of Turkish expression "KARA-HAN US" meaning "Wise Black Lord" and/or "We are Black Lord believers". The term "KRATOS" also represents this belief in "BLACK" from Turkish "KARATU" meaning "it is black", or, "KARACUTU" meaning "it is black believer". In this context, "KRATOS" is also an anagram of Turkish expression "KARA ATA OS" (Kara Ata Oguz) meaning "Black Father Oguz" referring to the "black aspect" of the ancient Turanian trinity sky-god OGUZ where "SKY-GOD-OGUZ" has a duality nature, i.e.,"AK-HAN OGUZ" (White Lord-Oguz) represented by the sun, light, good, justice, fairness, tolerance, goodwill and general upright behaviour; and "KARA-HAN OGUZ" (Black Lord Oguz) represented by the lack of these.

Black is also important to explain the Basque people (Kaya); 'EUSKARA is the name of the Basque language in their own language. The name "EUSKARA" is a name made up of two Turkish words: EUS is a form of Turkish word EUS/EUZ, AUS/AUZ, AGUS/AGUZ all meaning "mouth, word, language". "EUS" is also a dialectal form of the Turkish "OUS, OGUS, OGUZ name of the ancient Turanian Sky-God. The name "KARA" is a Turkish word meaning "BLACK". For instance, KARA is present in the name of "KARA-HAN" meaning "Black Lord" or "Black Lord of Sky". Greek KRONUS is derived from Turkish "KARA-HAN-US" meaning "Wise Black Lord". Thus while "EUS-KARA", in one hand, means "BLACK LANGUAGE", on the other, it means "BLACK OGUZ" (Kara Oguz) referring to the "Black side" of a duality God (i.e., the "Black Moon"). The Black Moon refers to that phase of the Moon where it is totally hidden from sight by its own shadow.'

So black (rock/moon) is very significant for some people, as it seems.

Kaya: 'The term "VANGUARD" is an anagram of Turkish expression "ÖNÜ GORUDU" (önü korudu) meaning "he who guarded the front" which is the definition of "VANGUARD". Thus the roots of these words are Turkish.

I feel like so far I just wrote about my 'stokpaardjes' (hobbyhorses). And maybe for good reason, since I seem to be ancestor of the shepard kings (I now feel like I have to admit to you my humble name is Schäfer, a very common German or Jewish or Gypsy name). If you imagine herders, who or what would be the most important to you? Watch the latest season of Clarkson's Farm if you need a clue.

Kaya: 'Evidently ancient Minoans were fond of "bull" in many ways one of which was sporting with the "bull". "OKUZ" (Ox, bull) in Turkish was the symbol of the Sky-God OGUZ. Another ancient Turkish name for "bull" was "UT". Sumerian Sun-God's name was "UTU". This is also the Turkish "UT U" meaning "it is fire". At the same time, UTU is also Turkish "UT U" meaning "he is bull". Thus in the Turkish of ancient times, the Sky God had the names of OGUZ and UTU both of which are also the name of "BULL" in Turkish. While the TUR/TURK name comes from the trinity Sun-God's name "UTU", name OGUZ comes from the trinity Sun-God's name OGUZ. Having so much affinity through their religion, to the sacred animal "bull", ancient Turs/Turks evidently also developed sports that were related to "bull". The present day "bull fight" is a degradation of the sacredness of "bull.' So even Kaya agrees, Bullfighting is not cool. But he does explain the significance of the bull for people dependent on animal farming, for the city folks among us. Fire and bull being the same thing, the bull is God. No wonder the Iberians still love their bulls.

Maybe that would be a nice end for this part II for now. Next time I want to write more about what Kaya writes about the etymology of words like oligarchy, plutocracy, aristocracy, democracy, and so forth. Simple Greek words, you thought? You might be wrong. If you can't wait for part three, read it for yourself, on https://www.polatkaya.net/Yahoo_Polat_Kaya/Papers.html

I always wanted to be an original thinker, and now I see myself promoting someone's else work. I don't care, this is not about me or my ego, I can just say the best thing to live for is to find out the meaning of it all, find a better understanding of life and everything.

Amen

Kaya: 'It can be said that the concept of "GOD" originates from the "human mind". Without the presence of "man" on earth, the concept of "God" would also stop. Probably, that is why the ancient Tur Masarians (Misir, Egypt) called the creator Sky-God by the name "AMEN", AMUN" or "OMEN" (O MEN) which is a Turkic expression that likens "man" as image of Sky-Father-God. That is why GOD is a "Father" figure, that is, "ATA" in Turkish and represented with the letter "T". That same letter "T" also represents the name "UTU" the Sun-God since very ancient times. The names "AMEN", AMUN" or "OMEN" refer not only to "That Man [of Sky]", i.e., "GOD", but also states in Turkish that "He is me" indicating that "man" is created "in the image of God". The Wind deity cannot express this view of God.

(Friedrich: In other writings Kaya calls 'Amen' a caballistic spell. I am still confused)

PS: Talking about old and new Gods; (Kaya);'The Turkish word "AI" (AY), meaning "Moon", is the name of the "Moon"
and "Moon-God"' This article is written without using Artificial Intelligence, and is not approved for publication by Mossad.
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