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(Questions) Ere etymology.

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Ere
Preposition

Middle English er, from Old English ǣr, from ǣr, adverb, early, soon; akin to Old High German ēr earlier, Greek ēri early

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Would it be a good guess that English "ere" is a corrupted form of the Oer/Ur that makes up the first part of the word "Wralda"?
If so then would Ere.old almost be the English form of Wralda, though it only has the assumption of early-ness, but not other connotations of the dutch word "oera"?
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Great question. This inspired me to do a word study which lead to at least one great discovery. I will write several blog posts about it.

Short answer to the first question:
No, in Fryas, the word (much used) is ÉR (earlier, once, before), with superlative ÉROST/ÉRIST (first), as adjective ÉRE/ÉRA (former, early).

This reminded me of the probable hidden hint at Wralda in the Old Norse poem Vǫluspá: "ár var alda" (imo lit.: 'ere was old one', interpreted as 'in days of yore' or 'once upon a time')
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Thank you Ott, I shall look forward to reading more from the blog.
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The first blog post is ÉRSÉKE - 'ere-sake': cause of an effect : The Fryas spelling ÉRSÉKE in OL explains the word much better than the existing Dutch etymology of 'oorzaak'.

Thinking more about "ár var alda": this could also have meant (or have as hidden meaning) "honour Wralda".
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or: "first Wralda"; compare: [101/20] WRALDA WAS ÉR ALLE THINGA Wralda existed before all things

"ár var alda" in Fryas could be "ÉR WR.ALDA", which could be explained in various ways, which makes it even more beautiful.
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Voluspa, 3rd stanza.
Ár var alda þar er Ýmir bygði,
vara sandr né sær né svalar unnir,
jörð fannsk æva né upphiminn,
gap var ginnunga, en gras hvergi.
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Thank you for posting the whole stanza.

I said: "ár var alda" in Fryas could be "ÉR WR.ALDA"
It could also have been "ÉR WÉRE ALDA" (lit.: 'ere were old')

Second blog post on the topic: ÉR - ere, earlier, before, once
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ott wrote: 02 Jan 2023, 10:26 Thank you for posting the whole stanza.

I said: "ár var alda" in Fryas could be "ÉR WR.ALDA"
It could also have been "ÉR WÉRE ALDA" (lit.: 'ere were old')

Second blog post on the topic: ÉR - ere, earlier, before, once
That reminds me of the old term "erstwhile", so former president would be said "erstwhile" president
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