Krishnas and Christs other than Jesus Christ

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Krishnas and Christs other than Jesus Christ

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The OL narrative refers famously to the Buddha Siddharta Gautama as:
His first name was Yesus, but the priests, who despised him, called him Fo, that is ‘false’. The folk called him Krisen, that is ‘herdsman’, and his Frya friend called him Buda, that is ‘pouch’, because he had in his head a treasure of wisdom, and in his heart a treasure of love. [source: OL MS 138]
This reference to the Krisen the herdsman is reference is to the Krishna the child shepherd and cow-boy. That story of Krishna was known in Europe is attested from Finnish Bock family saga (India episode) tale of Nordic conqueror king Krishna, notably depicting the Krishna and Narakasura episode, and its medieval Norse saga echo in Þorsteins saga Víkingssonar (ch. 3, 6). The Norse echo begins the tale depicting the Fornjót line kings in Norway, but proceeds then to depict the same Krishna (Kol) and Narakasura (Tirus the Great) tale. Similarities between the Finnish and Norse tales include Krishna (Krishna, Kol) being an evil Nordic conqueror king and positive or neutral take on Narakasura (Narkasul, Kol) plus connecting it all thematically to the Uusimaa coastline of Finland (Odenma, Bálagarðssíðu). Krishna's name Kol in Norse saga echo may refer to 'magician' (as in e.g. OL and Al-Idrisi's Tabula Rogeriana) or be Norse variant of Kaleva or Kalevanpoika 'Kaleva's son' (Cælic in Anglo-Saxon Widsith). This same etymology gives the explanation for Krishna's blue skin, for Sanskrit काल kAla 'black' ↔ कृष्ण kRSNa 'black, black-blue'.

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Finnish version has Krishna to be renegade from the house of Aser (Æsir) gods, which may be the origin of the Sanskrit name Krishnasura. Names like Christ, Christian etc are explained as coming from the root word 'crystal' (kristall). Finnish and Indian versions know only of one Krishna, but Norse has in India Kol son of conqueror Kol, allowing thus the possibility of Krishna son of Krishna. This may explain why there are stories of Krishna being at one time a foreign conqueror and at other time a local infant.

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According to the OL narrative Buddha was thus called 'Krishna'. Buddhist lore includes Krishna as one of Buddha's previous students. Buddha's solar Saka ('Scythian'?) dynasty lineage stems from eternal Mahāsammata line of primaeval kings. This same eternal primaeval king line is that of Aser in Finnish Bock family saga, for in it they and the whole mankind are the children of Sampo-Frei and Aino-Freia, the first two human beings. Usage of dual Germanic-Finnish names allows us to match them with Germanic Wralda and Frya, Freyr and Freyja and Perchta (under her alternative names Sampa, Stampa, Zamperin, Zamper) and Finnish fertility deity Sampsa. Thus in the big overarching picture they all are derived from the same root pair we see in OL narrative under the names Wralda and Frya (in OL Frya is specifically the Northern European white ancestor mother).

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Biblical 'Christs' other than the main one includes Cyrus the Great, called "Christo meo Cyro" by Bartholomew of Lucca. This is in addition to his other notable title as King of Kings, King of the World, King of the Universe. A mention must also be made of god-king Alexander the Great, famous also from OL (MS 120-125) and Quran. Just as his father was a god-king deified as Zeus, Alexander was deified as Kosmokrator and as cultural hero in Quran. In Bible however the same Christ-alike title (Pantokrator ↔ Christ, Lord) is present more as lord of this world, signifying apparently the demons.
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Re: Krishnas and Christs other than Jesus Christ

Post by PýrKlépsas »

Very fascinating! I make sure to stay tuned for your future posts. I do have to state the obvious, and only in those limitations because I'm not good with anything sanskrit-related, by pointing to Krishn-asura, Narak-asura and Asuras:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura

''All the sacred texts of Shaivism, the Purānas, the Tantras, and the Agama tell us over and over again that only those who faithfully practice phallus worship will be saved, that all societies that draw away from the phallus cult and respect for physical sexuality are destined for declime and will be annihilated like the Asura, the race of men that preceded contemporary humanity.'' The Phallus (1995) by Alain Daniélou, p.112-113
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