Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star: The Letter X

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Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star: The Letter X

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Re: Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star: The Letter X

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OL MS 010 2e. Frya was White
FLÍLÁNDIS BODEM SVNK AN GRÁDA VNDER HJARA FYT DÀL. THJU LÒFT WÀRT SWART ÀND NÍ LOF FON TÁRA TO STIRTANE ÀND THÁ HJA NÉI MODER OM.SÁGON WAS HJU AL.LANG VPRIRA WÁKSTÀR.
Fleeland’s surface sank beneath her feet, the sky turned black and rain fell ceaselessly. And when her children looked to see their mother, she was already on her watch-star.
THA TO THA LESTA SPRÀK TÒNGAR UT.A WÒLKA ÀND BLIXEN SKRÉF AN THÀT LÒFT.RVM. WÁK.
Then, finally, thunder spoke from the clouds and lightning wrote upon the firmament: “Watch!”*

Hello everyone

Letter X is used pretty scarcely troughout OL MS, one possible reason being that ''TEX'' itself ends with this letter. I thought it would be reasonable to make a list of words used in the MS of all the words that include this letter, so somebody might get a better picture of the whole. I think that these separate letters hold separate meanings (similar to ÉWA: OL eng. transl. 2022 by JO - watch 2g, 4e, 13e, 13f and others), and it seems that way, as I'm presenting it right here. I'd also like to emphasize that I'm not putting any agenda of my own inside this post, for one reason being that I'm somewhat weirded out by some of the views held within MS myself, so please comment about the possible improvements so I may keep this post up to date if there are details you find to be mistakes or of similar nature, so I may fix it. I'm mentioning this so the reader does not confuse my interpretation of the MS with their interpretation of me having an agenda.

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The list's focus is in the chronological appearance of the words based on the OL MS itself, but besides this I tried to group the words in a somewhat orderly way. Page number (p.) is based on the latest revised edition by Jan Ott, 2022. Some ''note'':s within brackets are usually just small notices showing from where on different variations begin to occur, because, like the avid readers are already aware, how throughout the OL MS the language is little different here and there - almost chronologically, because the MS starts with The Book of Adela Followers where the first chapter is followed by the writings copied from the burg walls (we might expect them to be the oldest ones).

NUMBER SIX (It has a form of the Big Dipper - also scroll down for 'WITCH')
00a p.17 SEX Six
13a p.79 SEXTE Sixth
11a p.72 SEXTIAN Sixteen (note: 15c p.107)
9a p.60 SEXTICH Sixty

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TEX
1b p.21 TEX 'Tex'
1b p.22 TEX.LÁND 'Texland' (note: 14f p.104)

CHANGE and EXCHANGE of a thing or things within the limits of time**
2c p.24 FLUX* (used only once) Quick
2e p.26 BLIXEN* Lightning/Flash
13f p.87 WIXLE Change
16b p.115 WIXLAD Exchange (note: 19 p.141)
16f p.125 AFWIXLATH Varied
16f p.126 OFWIXLATH Occasionally

GROW (like GRAINS?)*
2f p.27 WAXA Grow(/Sprout) (p.70 10b. 'VPWOXEN')
11b p.74 I don't know how to translate this
WITH FRYDOM KÀMPA ÀND WOXELJA : 'to keep freedom at bay.'
18 p.130 WAXDOM Growth
16f p.126 WAXATH Grains

SAXONS (many variants as you can see)
1c p.22 SAX.MAN 'Saxman' (note: 13c p.81-)
SAXMANA, SAXMANNA, SAXMÀNNA ...
7a p.51/13b p.80 SAXNE Knives
12 p.77 SAXANNA MARKA 'Saxonmarks' (Not mentioned in The Book of Adela Followers §) (note: 13i p.92-)
SAXANA MARKA, SAXANAR MARKA, SAXNA.MARKA ...

WITCH
4f p.40 HEXNAD (To) Bewitch
9a p.61 HEX Witch (14g p.105 'HEXNA')
(Note 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagon)
(Note 2: https://fryskednis.blogspot.com/2017/10 ... witch.html)

OX
11c p.76 OXE an Ox
EN ÀFTE FRYA.S ÀND STERIK LIK EN JOK.OXE
'... a true Frya and strong as an ox ...'
15b p.106 LIK OXA WRDON HJA VNDER ET JUK BROCHT.
'Like oxen they were brought under the yoke.'

Others:

13b p.80 FALX(A) False

14d p.98 ALEXANDRE 'Alexander'

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Some picture sources:
https://www.kansallisgalleria.fi/fi/object/538185
https://fryskednis.blogspot.com/2020/03 ... ed-to.html
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... to-license
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... nation.JPG

§ OL MS 049 7a Before the Bad Times Those who lived in the Highmarks that border the Twisklands were called Saxmen

* OL MS 102 13f Primal Teachings 2 SÁHWERSA ALLERA MANNALIK NW WÉT ÀND JECHTA MOT THÀT HY ALON WIXLATH SÁ MOT HY AK BIJECHTA THAT ER JAHWEDER ÁGEBLIK WIXLATH.
Since everyone thus knows and must acknowledge that one is continuously changing, one must also acknowledge that one changes every instant
ÁGEBLIK : blink of an eye (EYE, with which a person watches)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ogenblik#Dutch
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/blik#Dutch (← Compare with Icelandic)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/twinkle#English
"Ah! vous dirai-je, maman" (French: [a vu diʁeʒ(ə) mamɑ̃], English: Oh! Shall I tell you, Mama) is a popular children's song in France. Since its composition in the 18th century, the melody has been applied to numerous lyrics in multiple languages – the English-language song "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" is one such example. It was adapted in Twelve Variations on "Ah vous dirai-je, Maman" by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
According to Henri-Irénée Marrou, the origin of the melody is an anonymous pastoral song dating from 1740, with children's lyrics added relatively recently. The melody was first published in 1761.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah!_vous_dirai-je,_maman

** Similar to: 'exchanging' blows within a combat?
OL MS 013 2f. Frya’s Tex
8. Do not attack either the folk of Lyda or of Finda. Wralda would help them, so that your violence would return upon your own heads.
OL MS 026-027 4a. Preventing War If anyone is so wicked as to steal from our neighboring peoples, commit murders, burn houses, defile girls, or commit any other deed that is wicked ... if the culprit is a king, a reeve, an alderman, or any one else who must uphold morals, we must make good for that evil, and the culprit must have his punishment. If he bears an honorable name from his ancestors on his shield, his kinsmen shall no longer use that name, in order that families will feel responsible for one another’s conduct.
OL MS 071 9d Jon and Minerva Resettle ... the people asked whether Frya’s morals would flourish in Athenia and the other Greeklands. The mother answered: “If the far Greeklands belong to Frya’s heritage, they will flourish there; but if they do not, there will have to be fights over them for a long time, because the Carrier shall have to go around with the Yule for five thousand years before Finda’s folk are ripe for freedom.”
OL MS 112 13i. Apollania’s Journey (Forana:) ''Lyda’s and Finda’s folk will wipe each other out, and it will be up to us to populate the empty lands.''
OL MS 161 16e Gosa: The Purity of Language ... as a punishment for their carelessness and their recklessness, they must continue fighting and warring with each other until they are all destroyed.
OL MS 190 18 Rika: Title Theft It (folly) comes from our enemies, and when they become your example, that will make you into slaves, to the sorrow of Frya and to the punishment of your haughtiness.
Q: Does lightning strike from the sky down, or the ground up?
A: The answer is both.

Source: https://www.nssl.noaa.gov/education/svr ... tning/faq/


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Re: Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star: The Letter X

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A big question is why do we have the letter X existing in the first place. Is it just a short written form of KS? I know the Bock family saga sees a story in it (two family lines crossing) and Romans/Christians make a number out of it (hidden also into the Finnish number system yhdeksän 'nine' or 'one [yksi, yhden] out of ten', kahdeksan 'eight' or 'two [kaksi, kahden] out of ten').

Don't get me even started with letter C that always seems to be just another confusing way to say S or K...
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Re: Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star: The Letter X

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"Kha (Х х; italics: Х х) is a Cyrillic letter derived from the Greek letter Chi (Χ χ). It is the twenty-third letter of the Russian alphabet and represents the voiceless velar fricative /x/ unless it is before a palatalizing vowel, when it represents /xʲ/." (en.wikipedia.org)

"Xi (χ): This is the same sound as "ch" in "Bach", which does not sound like "ch" in "chair". The same sound occurs in the Scottish "Loch", as in "Loch Lomond", or the German "ach!"." (https://web.mit.edu/jmorzins/www/greek-alphabet.htm)

You would have to consider the Christian "Chi-Ro", the Gebo and Hagal runes, and the Masonic "G" (for example).

As an aside:
Arisk (Norwegian)
Arysk (Frisian)
Arisch (Dutch)
Aryan (English)
Frisk (Norwegian)
Frysk (Frisian)
Fries(ch) (Dutch)
Frisian (English)
Matrise (Norwegian)
Matriks (Frisian)
Matrijs (Dutch)
Matrix (English)
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